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Old 7th Oct 2019, 15:58
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For my family, Tunisia and Egypt will have to be a lot more stable and safer for the leisure traveller before we even contemplated those destinations.
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 15:58
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We will know more by the end of the year
I’m guessing that we shall see some new destinations where TCX used to fly and maybe even a new UK Departure point

there will be a lot of work going on at the minute but it will all depend on slots and aircraft available and hotels etc
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 16:01
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'new UK departure point' - oh, don't get them started!
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 16:06
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Originally Posted by sixchannel View Post
For my family, Tunisia and Egypt will have to be a lot more stable and safer for the leisure traveller before we even contemplated those destinations.
Its not everyones cup of tea , but people still wish to go and if its good enough for TUI to take their customers there then i cant see any reason why Jet2 cant offer it now that TCX has folded , Some of my best Holidays have been in Egypt with Thomas Cook but i agree lets wait and see what happens.
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 16:22
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5 planes ex tcg sorted inc crew. Airbus.
Anyone confirm?
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 16:40
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Originally Posted by castleford tiger View Post
5 planes ex tcg sorted inc crew. Airbus.
Anyone confirm?
The rumour is about, heard it a couple of days ago, but can't confirm it's actually happening.
If the Airbus fleet expansion and aircrew does come about, many of the projects and expansion mentioned in previous posts would come true. The business opportunities are too good to miss.
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 17:09
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They would be mad not to surely ? The crew are available , The aircraft are available , The hotels are available and the all important passengers are available. If anyone can do it then its Jet2 and i hope they do! Bringing in Airbus A321 aircraft will add even more diversity to the fleet alongside the bigger A330.
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 17:37
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Originally Posted by LiamNCL View Post
Bringing in Airbus A321 aircraft will add even more diversity to the fleet alongside the bigger A330.
Which sometimes is not always a great thing... Airtours used to have every plane under the sun and look what happened to them...
Stick to 738's.
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 18:24
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Originally Posted by DjerbaDevil View Post
The rumour is about, heard it a couple of days ago, but can't confirm it's actually happening.
If the Airbus fleet expansion and aircrew does come about, many of the projects and expansion mentioned in previous posts would come true. The business opportunities are too good to miss.
tcx aircraft are currently at the lease company so they could be going anywer, i have heard the usa mentioned.
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 18:47
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount View Post

Which sometimes is not always a great thing... Airtours used to have every plane under the sun and look what happened to them...
Stick to 738's.
Agreed. But the B733s and the B757s are on the way out (eventually). B738s are no longer being produced and the second hand market has dried up due to the grounding of the B738MAX. In any case the recent acquisition of DRTI from Jet Airways was, according to rumour, very expensive to bring up to standard. Any second hand B738s available at the moment probably have serious defects or have had poor maintenance. So to take advantage of the present situation, there are very few options.
On the other hand the business opportunities offered by the demise of TCX won't be around for ever and in the holiday business it is now or never. Either the customer is served with what he wants now or he goes elsewhere.
As JET2 have already had a few seasons with the Airbus330, they could even contemplate taking on their own A330s. They have the golden opportunity of adding A321s with TREs and experienced crew plus maintenance staff and engineers. All available immediately to expand their coming winter and next summer programmes to meet the extra demand.
Yes, it would be better to be all Boeing but there's nothing on offer immediately from Boeing.
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 18:55
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Originally Posted by 2Para View Post
tcx aircraft are currently at the lease company so they could be going anywer, i have heard the usa mentioned.
TCX had 27 A321s and at least 25 of those were leased. Lessors will be looking for airlines to lease them and moving 25 large aircraft to other airlines in a short space of time isn't easy. If JET2 want some of them, doubtless the lessors will be delighted to talk to JET2, who are profitable and can pay the leasing....
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 19:00
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount View Post

Which sometimes is not always a great thing... Airtours used to have every plane under the sun and look what happened to them...
Stick to 738's.
I would normally agree about sticking with the one type but the problem as we all know is that the 2nd hand 737 market has gone. The time has never and will never be better for Jet2 to make that next step if they wish to be up there with TUI & With the 757 and 733 end on the horizon i believe a well run airline like Jet2 could operate a fleet of 738 and A321 much better than Airtours. We are talking about a massive potential passenger increase, provide it and they will come. Its also worth mentioning that due to the exact MAX problem its very unlikely TUI theirself will be able to do anything if at all to expand, The oppertunity will never be greater.
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 19:26
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I think there is some far fetched theories going on in this thread. The only A321s Jet2 will be getting are the likes of Smartlynx and Titan - I very much doubt they’ll take any of the TCX fleet unless they happen to be leasing from an airline that have taken on some of the old fleet.

i think they will stay cautious. It’s a very difficult time for the economy and don’t they know it - Brexit, weak pound, high fuel prices. Jet2 are very good at what they do, there’s absolutely no denying that, but they’ll have everything in mind and I highly doubt they’ll take any risks or make any rash decisions. If the MAX was to come back into service it may increase the availability and reduce the cost of leased aircrafts, which would help, but that is a massive IF.

i think the likes of NCL, GLA, BHX and STN can probably only realistically hope for 2 at most additionally based aircraft, on some days, and then MAN will probably get the additional A330 from Tanker and some of other leased aircraft.

I think people hoping Jet2 taking on numerous additional aircraft on will probably be disappointed come next summer unless something massively changes. After all, less demand is going to lead to higher prices with higher loads, why would they take unnecessary risks?
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 19:26
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Go for it Jet2.com! You can do it!
Flights equally split between T1 & T2 at MAN if it happens...
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 20:18
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Envlop 330 arrived at MAN not long ago under a EXS flight number from MAD. How long have LS got it and where will it be used ?
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 21:01
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Envlop 330 arrived at MAN not long ago under a EXS flight number from MAD. How long have LS got it and where will it be used ?
Until 2nd November 2019.
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 22:19
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Lots of hard work and negotiations going on as we speak.
As far as I know and I would know, No new base for 2020, Obviously MAN is our main priority right now.
Tunisia is not happening nor is Egypt, far to unstable for our operations right now.
As for any kind of ex Thomas Cook Aircraft / Crew I’m not in a position to comment, as you can imagine this is very commercially sensitive information.
All I can say is there will be extra flights from existing based, and work continues to launch more routes for summer 2020.
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 22:52
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Originally Posted by daz211 View Post
Lots of hard work and negotiations going on as we speak.
As far as I know and I would know, No new base for 2020, Obviously MAN is our main priority right now.
Tunisia is not happening nor is Egypt, far to unstable for our operations right now.
As for any kind of ex Thomas Cook Aircraft / Crew I’m not in a position to comment, as you can imagine this is very commercially sensitive information.
All I can say is there will be extra flights from existing based, and work continues to launch more routes for summer 2020.
Thanks for the info looking forward to some news in the near future regarding extra capacity / routes from existing bases.
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Old 8th Oct 2019, 06:10
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Is BFS likely to get anymore flights. Posters tend to naturally mention the larger bases LBA MAN STN BHX
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Old 8th Oct 2019, 07:53
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I think people are getting far too excited. There was over capacity, too many holidays on very thin weak margins, at a time of reduced demand - Brexit, weakening pound etc. Why would anyone take risks ? Far better to increase yields and consolidate. Jet2 are the best at what they do, there is no need for them to do anything other than continue their modest growth. Replacing older frames when the opportunity arises, leasing in peak time capacity without the risks. I expect anything not Boeing will be leased in. When the MAX gets back into service, there will be a glut of used 738s on the market- I think J2 will just wait.
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