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Old 24th Sep 2018, 12:06
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount View Post
If Norwegian struggled would be surprised to see Primera, though they do seem a little off the wall. The loss of Norwegian I cant see being inextricably linked to a sudden flurry of other mainline carriers.
Any further rumblings on TA Delta expansion or Virgin arrival?
IMO - See that more likely than another LLC
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Old 24th Sep 2018, 12:13
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I donít know anything for certain but Iím pretty confident youíll see BOS with DL soon, they should be announcing LIS soon and I donít think EDI will be far behind.
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Old 24th Sep 2018, 14:02
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If Norwegian cant make EDI work then Primera cant and won't IMO. Tried and failed move on and see what S19 brings, personally I cant see Boston being added anytime soon, If Delta were to expand in Scotland futhermore I would bet my bottom dollar on ATL.
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Old 24th Sep 2018, 14:11
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Originally Posted by Haldane90 View Post
If Norwegian cant make EDI work then Primera cant and won't IMO. Tried and failed move on and see what S19 brings, personally I cant see Boston being added anytime soon, If Delta were to expand in Scotland futhermore I would bet my bottom dollar on ATL.
I think they could make it work as PF and DL fly to/from primary airports with higher frequency, many average punters will not know when Bradley Windsor Locks is, but they will definitely know where Boston is.
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Old 24th Sep 2018, 14:22
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Originally Posted by mullac30 View Post
I think they could make it work as PF and DL fly to/from primary airports with higher frequency, many average punters will not know when Bradley Windsor Locks is, but they will definitely know where Boston is.

Were Norwegian not advertising these routes as 'Boston' & 'New York' though?

I do believe Boston is a missing link from Scotland however with Brexit looming I cannot see any expansion. Happy and hope to be proved wrong
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Old 24th Sep 2018, 16:00
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Originally Posted by CraigJay View Post
I donít know anything for certain but Iím pretty confident youíll see BOS with DL soon, they should be announcing LIS soon and I donít think EDI will be far behind.
BOS isnít even served out of LHR on Delta metal so it would be a major change. JFK has a host of Delta feed as well as O&D traffic, BOS not even close by comparison. When NW flew GLA/PIK-BOS, it was also to connect onwards, today that is better served over EWR/JFK/ORD.
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Old 24th Sep 2018, 16:56
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Old 24th Sep 2018, 17:02
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DL EDI-BOS? Im surprised youre 'pretty confident'... can't see that one currently at all. Unless something gives, DL narrowbody long haul is also fully utilised.
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Old 24th Sep 2018, 21:26
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Edinburgh August stats now out, 1.4 million passengers passes through the airport in August.
I wonder If Edinburgh might hit 14 or 15 million passengers this year?
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Old 24th Sep 2018, 21:52
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Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam View Post


Thanks inOban, very disappointing and donít get the logic as both away based aircraft routes. Those who have access may have load factor details that may show a reason why.

(IMO feels like they are just sticking 2 fingers up to Scotland, EDI et al. Surprised they are keeping any routes ....IMO)
The Spanish routes have been on borrowed time for the past year or so since they dropped AGP, along with ALC/AGP/BCN from MAN and AGP/BCN/TFS from BHX. It's not an EDI specific issue, it was part of a larger review of UK short haul ops due to overcapacity in some markets, particularly Spain. EDI-TFS and BCN have multiple operators on them (plus GRO and REU also served), so not surprised to see them go.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 12:07
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Originally Posted by Plane mad 134 View Post
Edinburgh August stats now out, 1.4 million passengers passes through the airport in August.
I wonder If Edinburgh might hit 14 or 15 million passengers this year?
With the rolling total YTD at 13,906,051 passengers I would imagine if they sustain a steady 5% growth per month they wonít be far of 14million rolling total by the turn of the year, 15 is a bit optimistic 😄
The question is whither the current growth can be sustained given recent news. Last winter saw the cancellation of the FR Stansted flights (pilot holiday debacle), I would think their return will boost numbers but there have been routes lost compared to last year too. With EK only 5 days / week through most of the W18 this might not make much +ve difference.

I may be wrong but the growth levels are still above what was planned for a few years back, will this prompt the private owners to bring out the check book and finance a sorely needed main terminal expansion....principally the check in area?

One can only hope, and that the occasional murmur of Delta/ Virgin TA flights come true also.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 12:46
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot View Post

BOS isnít even served out of LHR on Delta metal so it would be a major change. JFK has a host of Delta feed as well as O&D traffic, BOS not even close by comparison. When NW flew GLA/PIK-BOS, it was also to connect onwards, today that is better served over EWR/JFK/ORD.
Does this discount the daily DL059 then? LHR-BOS 0920-1225 in January - daily service on a 76W
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 19:28
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I have heard that the loads with EK have not been as robust as expected.

The big draw for premium passengers to Glasgow will undoubtably be the dedicated EK lounge, which is a great facility and hugely popular. Given that the chauffeur drive service for premium pax for GLA flights covers all of Edinburgh, perhaps more Edinburgh residents flying in Business or First are taking their business down the M8?

QR have the upper hand at EDI, as their premium pax can use the BA lounge at EDI (which by all accounts is a very nice lounge) but sadly the Aspire facility is no match for this nor the EK dedicated lounge at GLA.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 19:35
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Originally Posted by Mister Geezer View Post
I have heard that the loads with EK have not been as robust as expected.

The big draw for premium passengers to Glasgow will undoubtably be the dedicated EK lounge, which is a great facility and hugely popular. Given that the chauffeur drive service for premium pax for GLA flights covers all of Edinburgh, perhaps more Edinburgh residents flying in Business or First are taking their business down the M8?

QR have the upper hand at EDI, as their premium pax can use the BA lounge at EDI (which by all accounts is a very nice lounge) but sadly the Aspire facility is no match for this nor the EK dedicated lounge at GLA.
That's not a problem as QR use the No.1 Travellers Lounge at EDI, which is due to be relocated and expanded in the near future.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 19:51
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Originally Posted by edi_local View Post
That's not a problem as QR use the No.1 Travellers Lounge at EDI, which is due to be relocated and expanded in the near future.
Interesting, where are they relocating too? And what itís he current No1 Lounge becoming? EK lounge?
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 21:34
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I wonder if this is to do with the Airline rumours, we have already got rumours of China Eastern to Shanghai, Delta to Boston and Hartsfield Jackson, Westjet or Air Canada year round and the usual Virgin Atlantic as well. Now I personally find it hard to believe some of these services will materialise in the near future, although some might this is maybe what the lounges are getting ready for?
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 22:16
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The No1 lounge is terrible at EDI. I myself used it a couple of months ago. The staff are fantastic but the lounge itself is woeful with no Ďfacilitiesí in the lounge. The carpet in the lounge is so filthy, it would not look out of place in a Weatherspoons pub.

QR pax in Business flying from EDI should be allowed to use fellow OneWorld member lounges as per the terms and conditions as published by OneWorld? If a pax has QR FF Ďstatusí then he/she should be able to use the BA lounge. In theory every QR pax travelling in business, or with the required FF Ďstatusí should be able to access the BA lounge in EDI.

If this is an issue then they have every reason for bringing this up with OneWorld, as it is an exemption to the rule.

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Old 25th Sep 2018, 22:44
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As an aside, the OneWorld website states that the BA lounge at EDI is available for:

Access for eligible customers traveling on any oneworld member airline

(travelling in/with the following Ďstatusí)

Business Class / First Class / Sapphire Tier / Emerald Tier

Therefore no QR passenger should be subjected to the No1 lounge at EDI.
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Old 26th Sep 2018, 06:12
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Originally Posted by Mister Geezer View Post
As an aside, the OneWorld website states that the BA lounge at EDI is available for:

Access for eligible customers traveling on any oneworld member airline

(travelling in/with the following Ďstatusí)

Business Class / First Class / Sapphire Tier / Emerald Tier

Therefore no QR passenger should be subjected to the No1 lounge at EDI.
Was lucky enough to fly a couple of time Biz class with Qatar last year and used the BA lounge np. They have a sign in sheet for QR customers. Only small advantage of the current No1 Lounge is itís closer to Gate 11 where QR flight tends to depart from IMO, BA lounge is far superior and better facilities 😊👍
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Old 26th Sep 2018, 07:10
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A few things to clarify.

QR now uses gate 4 since the change to the 359. For clarification eligible QR customers absolutely can use the BA lounge and many do as it's so close to gate 4 and especially on the afternoon departure when that lounge is usually quieter. The early morning flight is a bit more of a challenge as BA passengers tend to fill it up and they have priority. During times of BA disruption they can so restrict entry to BA customers only.

As far as im awarw The number 1 lounge is getting a new location somewhere in the extension. I'm not sure what's happening to the current Lounge. Eventually the steps leading to UK arrivals right next to the current Lounge will be closed off as part of the check in hall expansion. What will become of that big area though I don't know. Unless the lounge is being extended, renovated and staying where it is of course. There is definitely change on the way in the short term future.
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