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it has been mentioned on here before, as recently as edi_local‘s post saying it should be moved to Stirling, Perth or Fife as in his opinion it’s not to be celebrated in Capital of the country because it upsets some people getting to the airport. It’s a huge tourist attraction, celebrating Scottish Culture and rural life, it’s home should be in the Capital.
Anyway, to me it's not really a big deal. I navigate the traffic and manage fine for the day or so when it's in town, but I was thinking more from the actual organisers POV. They could move it to a new purpose built venue in a location that is not affected by already confined spaces and an inadequate road system. The show itself has presumably grown since the 1960s, yet the venue and road network have barely changed. That alone should be cause for them to cash in and built a new, world class facility which will allow an even bigger and better show. Even a glimpse of the show ground from the road to the airport lets one see the contributors appear to have very little space to display their wares.
The idea that the airport should move is ridiculous. You can't honestly think it's a sensible suggestion to move an entire airport and runway and all the other stuff that goes with that to a town which already houses a large petrochemical plant as well as tens of thousands of people. A new showground and exhibition centre is obviously going to be easier to build than an airport and the relocation of the RHSG would allow both to benefit from more space and improved access. The roads are not suitable for either, let alone both.
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The huge amount of Chinese tourists visiting Europe tend to go direct not via the ME3, the Chinese inbound tourism market is huge and what your seeing in Dubai is just a very small percentage of that, it doesn't necessarily mean that most Chinese visitors to Europe stop off in Dubai.
I've just checked my figures for Saturday and I notice that the company I work for has 1253 Chinese passengers embarking over two ships and checking their flight details ALL of them are flying directly to London from China, that doesn't include those disembarking as I don't have those figures yet but I'm assuming the majority will be returning directly back to China with some staying in the UK before returning home but I've yet to come across any that have traveled via Dubai, there's a good example!
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In addition to the visitors, many of whom are staying over at least one night, there are also hundreds, if not thousands of people working on site and staying for up to a week. These showgrounds, like exhibition centres, need to be located near accommodation and other facilities. Hence they stopped being itinerant, as they once were, and built a fixed site which offers the possibility of income the rest of the year. There's no business case for a site in the country.
It's no accident that the NEC was built next Birmingham airport and its railway station.
It's no accident that the NEC was built next Birmingham airport and its railway station.
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According to Wikipedia;
I know, for example, that the show took place in Peebles during the 19th century when most of the visitors and exhibitors travelled there by rail. This required extensive improvements to the local rail infrastructure.
I agree that it would be easier to relocate the showground than the airport but the price the RHAS were demanding was extortionate. As a result, expansion of the airport will focus on the existing land footprint for the foreseeable future. Now that runway 12/30 has been permanently closed, a lot of development land has been freed up.
The road infrastructure definitely needs to be improved and various schemes have been proposed including new routes to the M8, Newbridge and Gogar but nothing has been approved yet. The proposed new development between the airport and Gogar will require a new road but will bring additional traffic so it's doubtful that congestion will reduce.
The show first started in 1822, and was located at Edinburgh’s Canongate on a site now occupied by the Scottish Parliament. From this point until 1959 the show moved around the towns and cities of Scotland, in one of the RHASS’s eight electoral areas - Perth, Stirling, Strathclyde, Aberdeen, Lothian, Borders, Dumfries & Galloway and Highland. In 1960 the Ingliston site became the permanent home of the show, opening on 21 June 1960. The move to a permanent location has helped the show develop beyond its original remit, to become a celebration of Scottish food, countryside and its farming.
I agree that it would be easier to relocate the showground than the airport but the price the RHAS were demanding was extortionate. As a result, expansion of the airport will focus on the existing land footprint for the foreseeable future. Now that runway 12/30 has been permanently closed, a lot of development land has been freed up.
The road infrastructure definitely needs to be improved and various schemes have been proposed including new routes to the M8, Newbridge and Gogar but nothing has been approved yet. The proposed new development between the airport and Gogar will require a new road but will bring additional traffic so it's doubtful that congestion will reduce.
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The RHSG could have relocated to the land freed up by the closure of 12/30. They could have done some kind of deal with the airport. That's a huge area which would have allowed them to built a purpose built exhibition hall and outdoor space, with plenty of land, much closer to the railway and tram tracks and actually further away from noisy active runways and taxiways. A new road network could have been built too, allowing dedicated roads to lead to the new RHSG for major events via the road that leads down to EDI Cargo and the current roads to be used exclusively for airport traffic with a bit of upgrading. The redevelopment of the current RHSG site could have allowed for a dedicated exit road from Newbridge to the terminal too as well as new spaces for the hotels and various other businesses currently being built around the airport and expected to be built on the new land. That would have freed up space for the current road leading down to the airport to be upgraded for people coming from the city/Gogar.
Sadly though, you are correct, there will be yet more congestion when the new developments start springing up,
Sadly though, you are correct, there will be yet more congestion when the new developments start springing up,
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I had heard that the new jetty at CWL was second hand from LHR T1, although how true that is I don't know.
To be honest, EDI could do with new jetties all round, some of them are quite unreliable and tired looking.
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Are these brand new or second hand from another airport?
I had heard that the new jetty at CWL was second hand from LHR T1, although how true that is I don't know.
To be honest, EDI could do with new jetties all round, some of them are quite unreliable and tired looking.
I had heard that the new jetty at CWL was second hand from LHR T1, although how true that is I don't know.
To be honest, EDI could do with new jetties all round, some of them are quite unreliable and tired looking.
I was under the impression that Cardiff had purchased two of them from LGW.
The AirBridges at Cardiff are totally different from the usual AirBridges seen at other airports as there not fully extendable and the Brand NEW ones at EDI are similar to those found at LHR T2 and T5.
Although I agree that EDI could do with replacing some of their existing AirBridges and as well as adding more to those gates that don't currently have them.
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Wouldn’t Aberdeen have to added a mezzanine level for jetbridges, as the current set up with the departure gates being on the ground floor makes an airbridge difficult. It’s a shame the new airbridges at Edinburgh won’t be glass ones like at Newcastle and some at Gatwick. It’s always nice to see outside while boarding.
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Wouldn’t Aberdeen have to added a mezzanine level for jetbridges, as the current set up with the departure gates being on the ground floor makes an airbridge difficult. It’s a shame the new airbridges at Edinburgh won’t be glass ones like at Newcastle and some at Gatwick. It’s always nice to see outside while boarding.
I hope they are at least heated/Air Conditioned, but to be honest if the state of the other jetties at EDI is anything to go by, as long as they don't reek of damp and have have litter, rust, rainwater, costa coffee cups, sodden, stinking carpets and filthy walls, they will already be a vast improvement.
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I was kind of hoping for that too. It also helps staff to see from a distance if there is a queue of people on the bridge or not.
I hope they are at least heated/Air Conditioned, but to be honest if the state of the other jetties at EDI is anything to go by, as long as they don't reek of damp and have have litter, rust, rainwater, costa coffee cups, sodden, stinking carpets and filthy walls, they will already be a vast improvement.
I hope they are at least heated/Air Conditioned, but to be honest if the state of the other jetties at EDI is anything to go by, as long as they don't reek of damp and have have litter, rust, rainwater, costa coffee cups, sodden, stinking carpets and filthy walls, they will already be a vast improvement.
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Wouldn’t Aberdeen have to added a mezzanine level for jetbridges, as the current set up with the departure gates being on the ground floor makes an airbridge difficult. It’s a shame the new airbridges at Edinburgh won’t be glass ones like at Newcastle and some at Gatwick. It’s always nice to see outside while boarding.
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Delhi is a very strong rumour and is one to watch out for. Also look out for increased Orlando; which is surely not too far down the line.
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Presumably Air India? Unless Indigo are planning to go long haul?
India has always been well served through the ME hubs, so a direct service may steal a large chunk of their customers.
India has always been well served through the ME hubs, so a direct service may steal a large chunk of their customers.