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Old 12th Feb 2018, 07:27
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The bomb was found Saturday night in the dock roughly between stand 24 and the short stay car park. First of many to come I fear...
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 07:31
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To answer Navpi, I've dealt with several German air-dropped bombs during my time in the service, and to my knowledge none have exploded in UK in recent times except those deliberately detonated by EOD teams. A worker in Germany was killed in 2014 by a (believed to be) USA munition detonating when disturbed, which illustrates that the risk is very real. (There are far more UXB in Germany than other countries for fairly obvious reasons, and their EOD teams are utterly professional). Once the fuse is deactivated and removed the bomb itself is usually stable enough to be lifted and moved to a safe place for disposal, normally by detonating the main charge -if you ever experience one of these you gain a healthy appreciation of the amount of damage it could inflict in a built up area.
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 10:32
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Originally Posted by gilesdavies View Post
Any other City Airport operators with aircraft not based at the airport, diverting to another airport today?
Luxair, Skywork and Sun Air (BA) are going into SEN. Alitalia into STN.
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 10:54
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c130 arrivals due into LCY today. A few rescheduled showing on the SEN arrivals page, nothing showing on STN arrivals.
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 11:06
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AZA212/216 arrived at STN this AM.

Obvious judicious non ops & a/c "trapped" at LCY.
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 12:28
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Originally Posted by Navpi View Post
Just curious has an unexploded WW2 bomb actually ever blown up....

I do realise that we can't take a chance but Ive never heard on one actually expldoing ?
Although rare it happens...
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 13:55
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Or the one I referred to in 2014, which killed a construction worker who disturbed it, not an EOD team. The danger is real:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/10550492/Construction-worker-dies-as-World-War-II-bomb-explodes-in-Germany.html
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 14:29
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Is there an estimate as to when LCY will reopen for normal passenger flights again ?
I know fuses / explosives become rather less stable with age but presumably someone who knows what they are doing should have an idea as to how big the job is...
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 14:45
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Difficult to even estimate the timeframe. The fact that it's a Royal Navy team who are dealing with it means it's either below the high water line (I'm not familiar with that area, but presume it's tidal?), or a naval mine. Either condition complicates things somewhat.
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 15:11
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It’s in the KGV dock it seems.
Odd that normal ops ran yesterday? I flew on from ORY and was all ops normal but LCY had expected delays when they opened?
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 16:53
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If it has sat there for 70 years what is another day.
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 17:00
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I presume it’s been found when works have been done, now that it has been disturbed it may allow the tide to continue to move it around which could mean an uncontrolled explosion if the detonator fires. Not a good thing at the end of a runway with arriving and departing aircraft. So deal with it now, find if any others are nearby and deal with them also. Once it’s been disturbed is open to elements which could make it go bang!
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 19:33
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 View Post
Is there an estimate as to when LCY will reopen for normal passenger flights again ?
I know fuses / explosives become rather less stable with age but presumably someone who knows what they are doing should have an idea as to how big the job is...
I am flying with Luxair into LCY Tuesday afternoon and they are 95% sure the airport will reopen. If not, all flights will continue into Southend until it opens.

The bomb will be moved underwater tonight to a point off Shoeburyness/Foulness to be dealt with.

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Old 12th Feb 2018, 19:48
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Hopefully far enough away from the SS Richard Montgomery before they do so, otherwise we'll all have a completely different set of problems to deal with.
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 19:53
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But if that happens SEN will have all the space it needs to extend its runway!
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 19:56
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I sense Stobart Submarines coming soon to join the transport group alongside rail and airports....
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Old 13th Feb 2018, 03:10
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Old 13th Feb 2018, 06:05
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Originally Posted by LTNman View Post
If it has sat there for 70 years what is another day.
Would you be as sanguine if it was in the road outside your house?
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Old 13th Feb 2018, 12:24
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For those of us who actually live in the area, which had the most bombs dropped of anywhere in Britain, such finds are a periodic event. And I'm pretty sure there will be some between LCY and the road outside our house, especially anywhere that hasn't had any foundations etc dug (such as the bottom of a dock). But I don't see them as any cause for concern at all.
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 06:41
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The DLR railway has been on strike yesterday (Wed 28 Mar) and today (Thu 29 Mar). Apart from its own inconvenience, particularly for pax, it has also led to gross traffic congestion from those diverting to taxis or driving. The solid jammed traffic stretches right back along the approach road and around the surrounding approaches. It goes right back along North Woolwich Road and across the dock bridge which passes under the 09 approach. Yesterday it was taking an EXTRA hour to get from these points to the terminal. Pax could be seen abandoning taxis and struggling with baggage along the road to the terminal.
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