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Old 4th Aug 2019, 12:27
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Originally Posted by aurigny72 View Post
I agree that a daily service GCI-SEN is probably to much, especially with the new LHR-GCI service as well. I would have thought 3/4 times weekly on the SEN route would have been enough for the Summer. What is more crazy is that Blue Islands is intending to continue the GCI-SEN throughout the winter at the same daily frequency, unless they change their mind a lot of money will be lost on that and also on the Aurigny GCI- STN service. I do believe that Blue Islands is trying to get Aurigny to drop that route, lets hope they have got deep pockets, time will tell.
I think there is definitely a business need for a daily flight however the timings from SEN are not attractive for the business user. I try and avoid Aurigny as much as possible (even flying LGW - JER and then JER - CGI return and finally back to LGW) as I find Aurigny overpriced and unreliable. Blue Islands would need to do a double daily from SEN to dislodge Aurigny.
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 20:47
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Aurigny r not umreliable, they just try to fly all timetabled flights to the advertise destination despite the delays rather than cancel at the drop of hat.



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Old 4th Aug 2019, 21:32
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Originally Posted by Expressflight View Post
The load factor for June was 46% unless there were any cancelled flights I'm not aware of. There seems to have been a large increase in capacity on GCI-LON this year and the decision to fly GCI-SEN daily seemed strange to me.
I have tried, in previous posts, to explain that Channel Island routes are not money spinners. In particular, Guernsey routes are marginal. This load factor & the personal experience of another poster just go to prove this supposition. There has been a large increase in capacity this year (EGLL & EGMC). Together, this adds c120 seats per day. It is generally not possible to fill anywhere near all of these seats. The demand is simply not there ; as is also the case with the LOG Bournemouth service. Consequently, Blue Island are highly unlikely to add a second daily ‘MC flight. There is much complaining in Guernsey at the lack of routes to the island , & the lack of a LCC. Until there is a significant increase in demand (& usage) of existing services & airlines, there can surely be no further increase in services & destinations ; or of a reduction in fares provided by a LCC.
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 19:48
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Well said kcockayne, sums up the situation perfectly.
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 20:03
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Originally Posted by Jerbourg View Post
I'm hearing whispers that STN is to be dropped from the schedule, if this is true it seems that maybe the new Flybe & Blue Islands routes to LHR & SEN have eaten away at the passenger loads..
Any more whispers jerbourg about STN being dropped?
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Old 6th Aug 2019, 15:33
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No nothing, I got the info from an Aurigny insider so seemed genuine.
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Old 19th Aug 2019, 06:57
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Take it back the SEN flight was packed last Friday!
Great airport to depart from
Check un lady said it had been popular with a mix of business and leisure
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Old 19th Aug 2019, 09:45
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Jethros indicates that the first new ATR is due this month. Any news of when this may be?
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Old 19th Aug 2019, 18:42
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Originally Posted by bmaviscount View Post
Take it back the SEN flight was packed last Friday!
Great airport to depart from
Check un lady said it had been popular with a mix of business and leisure
Pleased to hear that. Let’s hope that they keep it up.
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Old 21st Aug 2019, 06:41
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why do Aurigny run their inter-island services and Southampton services at the same time as blue islands ; surely this is not sustainable??

Why not a higher frequency Dornier service

Were these routes simply to use G Huet?

Anyone know about loads?
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Old 21st Aug 2019, 07:50
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Originally Posted by bmaviscount View Post
why do Aurigny run their inter-island services and Southampton services at the same time as blue islands ; surely this is not sustainable??

Why not a higher frequency Dornier service

Were these routes simply to use G Huet?

Anyone know about loads?
Morning and evening times are the most popular: that's why Aurigny have chosen to serve the route then. "Middle of the day" times tend to have lighter loads.
How long it two airlines can compete like this remains to be seen. It happened before when Jersey European took on KLM UK. They didn't compete for all that long.
Yes, the route has utilized G-HUET, but at times an ATR72 is used.
Loads have been good. I was told this at check-in at SOU a few weeks ago. Some have been full. Very attractive fares have been offered, at £19.99 well below LGW prices.
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Old 20th Sep 2019, 18:46
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With FlyBE reportedly pulling the JER EMA service would it be worth Aurigny making EMA GCI JER a triangular route. I flew GCI EMA 14 Sep ....it was quite full but I don’ think this is usual. Might be worth a try.
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Old 24th Sep 2019, 14:01
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Aurigny seem to be running with one Dornier at the moment. G-LGIS has been off for 3 days but G-OAUR hasn't been out for a few weeks. Any ideas what is happening - are both a/c tech?
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Old 24th Sep 2019, 21:33
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Both G-OAUR and G-LGIS were in the hangar (along with G-VZON) this afternoon. G-OAUR was last in service on the 6th. Both are undergoing maintenance. To create space G-SAYE was moved outside. (Don't know why they are hanging on to this fairly useless frame.) All Dornier flights were operated by G-ETAC today which meant cancelling services to SOU or running others at different times. Alderney residents are bound to have their own thoughts.
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Old 24th Sep 2019, 22:31
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Thanks for the comments. I have wondered why they acquired G-SAYE in the first place as it is a lower spec a/c than G-LGIS (it has a lower MTOW, hence reduced capacity). It seems to me as well that if they need 2 a/c operational every day to offer the ACI service, then relying on a 31 year old a/c as part of a fleet of 3 is perhaps being a little optimistic. I guess that they should have bought 3 new a/c once they had decided on the move to Dorniers, but perhaps they weren't allowed to do so.
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Old 6th Oct 2019, 10:22
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G-OAUR is still out of service after 1 month. This seems like rather a long time for routine maintenance on a relatively new a/c - I wonder what the problem is. G-LGIS is also out of service for 4 days, so they must be having problems there as well.
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Old 6th Oct 2019, 18:38
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Originally Posted by Hermite View Post
G-OAUR is still out of service after 1 month. This seems like rather a long time for routine maintenance on a relatively new a/c - I wonder what the problem is. G-LGIS is also out of service for 4 days, so they must be having problems there as well.
The Dornier saga goes on & on !
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 07:51
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Do they still have any Trislanders in operation? Been a while since I took a look.
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 08:35
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No all the Trislanders have gone, more than a year ago now
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 09:26
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From what I gather, the Alderney schedule requires a single ACI-based airframe with 4x daily flights to GCI and 2x daily flights to SOU. Which means that Aurigny has three Dornier 228s to cover a schedule that requires a single airframe. So effectively they have the luxury of having two spares in the hangar? So it should be no surprise that examples are not to be seen for a considerable time. Or am I missing something here?
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