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Sounds like a big cull on the 737 Transatlantic experiment with various reductions and cancellations.
Wonder if more to come. Can't think of an immediate new alternatives they could shift these routes to. Im guessing for the likes of EDI with BDL Windsor Locks gone, only one ETOPs 737 will be needed now. With some of those loads Im not all that surprised tbh.
Wonder if more to come. Can't think of an immediate new alternatives they could shift these routes to. Im guessing for the likes of EDI with BDL Windsor Locks gone, only one ETOPs 737 will be needed now. With some of those loads Im not all that surprised tbh.
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EDI-BDL ends March 25: Bradley airport loses Norwegian Air flights to Scotland | masslive.com
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A shame, but not surprising. When it first started i questioned whether the demand would be there. Hopefully it means the a/c can be utilised elsewhere for increased frequency
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Not record profits which is the whole point of the exercise, key point, they're going all out for market share and volume.
They had banked on politicians dropping APD to make money? Dropping everything from Bradley so quickly suggests they've not done their homework and are just throwing aircaft into markets to drive volume.
Norwegian reports record high year-end traffic figures: Carried over 33 million passengers in 2017
WINDSOR LOCKS -- Low-cost carrier Norwegian Air will stop its weekly flights between Bradley International Airport and Edinburgh, Scotland, citing delays in a Scottish tax break the airline expected.
The decision means Norwegian Air will completely pull out of Bradley. The flights began in June and will end March 25.
The decision means Norwegian Air will completely pull out of Bradley. The flights began in June and will end March 25.
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Skipness 1E, there are many reasons for why an airline drops flying between two airports after such a short time, but contrary to many other airlines Norwegian tries and tests new routes all the time. Many of them can't fly, but there are some of them that can fly on their own. Over time Norwegian have developed new markets, but they have also big failures. You Skipness 1E seems to concentrate on failures, while other of us looks at successes - the glass is half empty or the glass is half full.
One thing is for certain, Norwegian try to develope the industry, not preserve it like some of the dinosaurs do.
One thing is for certain, Norwegian try to develope the industry, not preserve it like some of the dinosaurs do.
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Do we really think that Bradley to Edinburgh would have been a success had they slashed APD ?
Personally I think not.
I think it's a smokescreen and dare I say it, for a route that was badly thought through and was always going to he problematic.
Slashing APD would not have made any difference to this route
Personally I think not.
I think it's a smokescreen and dare I say it, for a route that was badly thought through and was always going to he problematic.
Slashing APD would not have made any difference to this route
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My understanding is there are a number of reasons why Bradley was dropped. Its location - too far from either NY or Boston with a lack of support from the local tourist board, APD and a stronger Irish market.
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I presume there was nothing stopping them from switching BDL to SNN or DUB if APD was such a big issue... BDL was probably just a destination too far at this stage. It isn't all that far from PVD or SWF where their ops are focused, and they have the added benefit of NY and Boston nearby.
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One thing is for certain, Norwegian try to develope the industry, not preserve it like some of the dinosaurs
Bottom line Norwegian’s expansion looks like a bubble that may go pop very quickly in the next downturn but that’s just my view. Launching the unprecedented volume of seats to the US in winter is just desperation IMHO. Even from a strategic view, they serve NYC out of JFK on a wide body and SWF on a narrow body. Argentina being launched, DY static, D8 getting smaller at LGW and long haul growing aggresively. i.e. retracting in mature markets where one would be expecting good numbers by now in favour of launching ventures in long haul. Am Scottish, glass half empty comes easily
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Part of the reason why the Irish market is stronger than the Scottish one is the very large Irish populations around the eastern seaboard plus the additional ADP levy in Scotland.
I think it might work better by shifting the Scottish routes to JFK or BOS but that would significantly increase the cost.
No evidence of D8 getting smaller at LGW 11 aircraft 3 to be used for Tui charter and some rumoured long thin routes to come
I guess the revenue from APD helps prop up PIK
I think it might work better by shifting the Scottish routes to JFK or BOS but that would significantly increase the cost.
No evidence of D8 getting smaller at LGW 11 aircraft 3 to be used for Tui charter and some rumoured long thin routes to come
I guess the revenue from APD helps prop up PIK
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Shannon is a much smaller market than either Dublin or Edinburgh, although I could have seen it working as a summer-only route dependent on US tourists.
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No evidence of D8 getting smaller at LGW 11 aircraft 3 to be used for Tui charter and some rumoured long thin routes to come
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Still it is a smart move in very competitive market and guaranteed cash flow - BA does charters from LHR for Mark Warner and Club Med - I appreciate it is on a weekend when their own fleet is not fully utilised but its guaranteed income and cash in an uncertain world......just ask Carillion about the importance of cash !
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They are slot constrained at LGW and my understanding is that that these are Tui slots?
Further the flying of Tui pax does generate revenue without risk and is a good way of promoting Norwegian to people who perhaps haven’t flown with them before, the charter market is very important tool for reducing winter losses.
With regards to the EDI v Irish market a flight out of EDI to SWF on the 8th of Feb returning on the 18th will cost you £280.70 of which taxes and charges make up £142.80 meanwhile over in SNN out on the same day but back on the 21st (flight doesn’t run everyday) it costs £249.00 of which taxes are just £66.90.
The SNP had vowed to cut APD by 50% in April this year but this is now subject to a judicial review.
This market is price sensitive, most who are flying are students and families spending their own money, very few suits from what i have seen.
BDL has alway been the weakest from EDI
Further the flying of Tui pax does generate revenue without risk and is a good way of promoting Norwegian to people who perhaps haven’t flown with them before, the charter market is very important tool for reducing winter losses.
With regards to the EDI v Irish market a flight out of EDI to SWF on the 8th of Feb returning on the 18th will cost you £280.70 of which taxes and charges make up £142.80 meanwhile over in SNN out on the same day but back on the 21st (flight doesn’t run everyday) it costs £249.00 of which taxes are just £66.90.
The SNP had vowed to cut APD by 50% in April this year but this is now subject to a judicial review.
This market is price sensitive, most who are flying are students and families spending their own money, very few suits from what i have seen.
BDL has alway been the weakest from EDI
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Anyone heard any rumours of how Norwegian will utilise their new slots at LGW?
Any new routes to be announced? If so, will they be long haul wide body or long haul narrow body routes do we think?
Any new routes to be announced? If so, will they be long haul wide body or long haul narrow body routes do we think?