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Old 9th Sep 2018, 07:26
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I have been told nothing new for Summer 2019, apart from a couple of small changes on Short Haul from LGW (I think Rhodes and Aarlborg are going), along with the swap from Singapore to a 'Latin American destination' (i.e Rio).
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Old 9th Sep 2018, 08:15
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The swap from Singapore to Rio has beem formally announced earlier this week.
https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/norweg...-add-rio-15381
Would be surprised to see internal domestic on a big 180+ seater unless they are sitting on the ground somewhere idle... but even then.
Think narrowbody transatlantic the next for a major reshuffle /cull /redeployment.
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Old 9th Sep 2018, 08:29
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Okay a good rumour, but think about it, where are they going to get slots from.
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Old 9th Sep 2018, 08:32
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Gatwick remedy slots for Belfast given up by Ryanair?
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Old 9th Sep 2018, 08:38
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Originally Posted by Flightrider View Post
Gatwick remedy slots for Belfast given up by Ryanair?
That's an interesting idea as you could do LGW-BFS-SWF with one aircraft.
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Old 9th Sep 2018, 10:24
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Originally Posted by toledoashley View Post
That's an interesting idea as you could do LGW-BFS-SWF with one aircraft.
Or you could do LGW-JFK in one sector and actually be in NYC at the end of the flight.
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Old 9th Sep 2018, 10:43
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I understand 3 times dailly BHD-LGW-BHD
ALC/PMI at weekend with a BHD based A/C. So crazy a rumour probably based on some solid chatter. Do Norwegian have normal 737s to do that?
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Old 9th Sep 2018, 11:25
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It's all rumor. We will only get it confirmed through the normal channels
When the tow bar is left out at stand 6 by accident !!
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Old 9th Sep 2018, 11:57
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Originally Posted by Alteagod View Post
I understand 3 times dailly BHD-LGW-BHD
ALC/PMI at weekend with a BHD based A/C. So crazy a rumour probably based on some solid chatter. Do Norwegian have normal 737s to do that?
Would be a major win for BHD but would have to be MAX particularly to Spain.
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Old 9th Sep 2018, 14:12
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Norwegian do not have any interest in UK domestic services. Especially when an arrangement for connections is already in place with easyJet at LGW. To suggest that Norwegian are flying from BHD to LGW ALC and PMI is most probably some little third party ticket desk agent from Belfast with wishful thinking. Probably been told bollix from Katy Best. Aer Lingus axed them. Jetsgo dident go but after all its a rumour network.
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Old 9th Sep 2018, 16:50
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Gosh to be so high and mighty. Is it lonely at the top of that ivory tower. ALL airlines and AIRPORTS have regular discussions to see if better deals and costs can be achieved. It would be a foolish board in any business that did not explore all options even the outlandish to us outsiders especially in aviation where margins are minimal and handling contracts for example can be lost over literally a couple of pounds per turnaround.
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Old 9th Sep 2018, 19:20
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Altea, you suggested earlier this year that FR may operate LGW/BHD, have Norwegian trumped that option now?
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Old 9th Sep 2018, 19:49
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I don’t see the synergy of LGW BHD LGW for Norwegian, the NG could do it, but I wouldn’t want to land the MAX at BHD with a full load, it’s not even on our alternate list.

Going onto BFS LGW against EasyJet seems a bit pointless, the idea that you could launch from LGW to BFS then onto SWF doesn’t fly either the crew need 90 minutes preflight, the aircraft needs an ETOPS check before an ETOPS flight.

The SWF aircraft is on the ground at BFS for around 6 hours so you can’t do much with out risking delay to the outbound back to the US.

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Old 9th Sep 2018, 19:56
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Does seem strange that Norwegian would enter a competitive market to London rather than try to make the BFS routes (with no competition) successful. But who knows...

I used the PVD service in August and was very impressed...but most of all, both outbound and return were pretty well full. The outbound had a very high proportion (or so it seemed) of US customers, which I thought boded well...
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Old 9th Sep 2018, 20:33
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Sorry to rain on anybody's parade but couple of things;
  • Remedy slots are gone.
  • Ryanair didn't find this LGW BFS routing attractive, so much so they sacrificed it, and maintained other routes that could have been reopened in time
  • Norwegian has a deal with EZY at LGW, using slots to competev would be counter productive
  • BHD unfortunately is as its always been unattractive for locos as the day is short with 2130 closure and 0630 opening. Hence instead of 4 or 5 rotations its most likely only 3. Huge inefficiency for the economics of an aircraft, particularly Loco. EI BA and BE see it as being niche and away from the big boys and suppossedly at a premium in terms of revenue per pax.
  • If Norwegian needs to use slots out of LGW for what would be as best a marginal route, with an the long haul opportunities that they have, then things are in very rough shape.
​​​​​​Despite this, with the investment that BHD is making, I'd be surprised if something wasn't in the pipeline. Hard to see what it might be though.

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Old 18th Sep 2018, 16:27
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I've reviewed some prices on Norwegian's website this morning and again in the afternoon. The October prices on some routes I was interested in have changed very dramatically in that short time. They are roughly... three times higher now. For example HEL-CPH 260,59 € LowFare return being cheapest fare of the month. I hope it is only a computer glitch, otherwise I'd feel very sorry for them, as it would not predict well.
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Old 18th Sep 2018, 19:56
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Exactly the same on all routes from EDI.
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Old 18th Sep 2018, 20:22
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Just done a quick search through a few routes, long-haul and short-haul. Selling prices have absolutely shot up - LGW/FLL at minimum of 464 one-way from October onwards right through next summer and short-haul pricing looks a lot higher too. This is either a systems cock-up or a determined policy - the higher pricing is too consistent to be demand-driven. Something's afoot, I'd say.
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Old 18th Sep 2018, 20:26
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The website says there is a 'technical problem', connected?
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Old 18th Sep 2018, 21:20
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There was an issue where the system was selling fares at 'super crazy' low fares, so they have hiked pricing while they sort it out. Sounds like the plan is to honour the 'super crazy' cheap fares.
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