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Old 15th Jun 2019, 12:20
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BOH CFU BOH LPA BOH

Tue
BOH PMI BOH KEF BOH

Wed
BOH .... BOH PFO BOH

Thu
BOH PMI BOH ACE BOH

Fri
BOH CFU BOH TFS BOH

A/C 2 BOH .... BOH HER BOH

Sat
BOH PMI BOH RHO BOH

A/C 2 BOH IBZ BOH AYT BOH

Sun
BOH ACE BOH BOH DLM BOH

A/C 2 BOH PMI BOH ZTH BOH

This is the latest TUI schedule for summer 2020 with 2 gaps left to fill on a Wed and Fri am
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Old 15th Jun 2019, 15:45
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Why was todays GCI/JER flight canceled?
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Old 15th Jun 2019, 16:29
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It’s still on stand 3 at GCI. Gone tech?
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Just departed...1715
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 12:24
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Not such pleasant reading, BOH didn't seem to grow at the 20% the airport keep talking about in the latest stats released by the CAA. It grew by only 7% and it's hard to see where exactly the growth is coming from other than new Ryanair services.

April 2019 69,079 versus 64,431 +7%

Gainers

Prague 2,636 (This is an 87% load factor and compares favourably/better than other Ryanair Prague services from NCL, EMA and LBA
Paphos 4,240 +186% (Ryanair 2,989 and TUI 1,251)
Dublin 5,297 (This is an 82% load factor for the firs month of resumption of service)
Tenerife 4,731 +13% (TUI 3,116 FR 1,615)
Krakow 3,120 +1%

Losers

Venice 357 (4 flights were operated, works out at 89 pax per flight - basically terrible!)
Malta 2,547 -23% (a terrible result and shows Ryanair has cannibalised it's own services by starting EXT-MLA just a couple hours west of BOH)
Faro 5,631 -10%
Alicante 5,996 -4%
Girona 5,336 -5%
Murcia 5,588 -1%
Palma 9,053 -2% (FR 7,850 TUI 1,203)
Lanzarote 2,747 -16%
Las Palmas 2,925 -10%

Not operated

Geneva 0 pax -100% (last year 3,956)
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 13:32
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To be fair here itís not as bad as you have made out

The Rigby group did state the 20 % growth they are expecting is for the whole overall year not April

So 7 % for April is pretty good

Dont forget the 3 new summer routes from TUI and the extra Ryanair flights to Alicante and Palma will make a difference along with routes to Dublin , Prague and Paphos which are all extra this year

With regard to the Venice flights , only 1 set of figures have been given and they are wrong, both flights went out full . A few more flights are planned this Autumn but the problem is finding a spare aircraft to operate

Malta I agree is a slight worry with EXT so near
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 14:12
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Prague 2,636 (This is an 87% load factor and compares favourably/better than other Ryanair Prague services from NCL, EMA and LBA
Maybe because RYR don't fly to Prague from NCL??
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 14:48
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SWBKCB sorry you are correct, Jet2 in fact operate the NCL-PRG route
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 19:45
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Originally Posted by MARKEYD View Post
To be fair here itís not as bad as you have made out

The Rigby group did state the 20 % growth they are expecting is for the whole overall year not April

So 7 % for April is pretty good



Think Mark has hit the nail on the head, it's actually quite a good start, the 20% overall for the whole year looks very achievable, more promising growth than could be said for SOU.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 21:37
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Originally Posted by Dropoffcharge View Post
Think Mark has hit the nail on the head, it's actually quite a good start, the 20% overall for the whole year looks very achievable, more promising growth than could be said for SOU.
Absolutely, for instance I believe Malta last year had more rotations (9) than this year (8) because of the way the days fall, the load factor variation one year to the next is, on that basis marginal, so far from terrible, in fact it is apparently quite stable.

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Old 19th Jun 2019, 22:26
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BOH have to hope that SOU dont attract EZY or Jet2 in the near future as that would certainly reduce their growth figures. With BE dropping sun routes, you would expect an airline to step in and offer cheaper, more frequent flights on the med routes at some point!

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Old 20th Jun 2019, 07:49
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I think the reason Flybe is dropping said routes from SOU is due to the FR competition at Bournemouth. I wouldn't advise anyone to go into SOU at this point unless they are ready to face the onslaught from Ryanair at Bournemouth.

This could all change in an instant though if Ryanair themselves went into SOU after the runway extension there.
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Old 20th Jun 2019, 09:35
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Originally Posted by shamrock7seal View Post
I think the reason Flybe is dropping said routes from SOU is due to the FR competition at Bournemouth.

Correct me if Iím wrong, but are Flybe actually dropping any sun routes from SOU? The only thing I can think of are the question marks over their ability to operate the routes from summer 2020 onwards once the E195s leave the fleet. That seems to be more of an operational than a commercial issue- theyíve operated sun routes from SOU for years with healthy loads.
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Old 20th Jun 2019, 11:19
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Go to the route cause of the problem, 'aircraft' are being used as an excuse by Flybe for a failed strategy. They have operated for many years probably at a contribution level and not profit level. The reason for that? Competition! Larger aircraft, lower seat mile costs and lower fares of the competition mean less and less pax and dwindling contribution for Flybe; possibly even negative contribution to Direct Operating Costs. Hence the desperate need to get rid of the aircraft/routes. It's not just sun routes from SOU it's most if not all sun routes from UK regions.
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 10:12
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BOH will most likely grow by 18% looking at performance to date and upcoming growth. Surprisingly they are actually down on last year same period.

Mar18-Apr19 686,000
Mar17-Apr18 690,000

Predicted increase to come (assuming Ryanair operate to PFO at 1 weekly over winter i.e Nov & Dec) between May-Dec19: 120,000

Prediction for the calendar year 2019: 794,000 (18% above 2018 which was 674,000)

If the winter FR PFO route doesn't happen it'll be more like 789,000
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 10:34
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Steady growth this year considering the B word etc, also lucky that BOH has been unaffected by the MAX issues, I believe 2020 will be a much stronger year, what with the extra TUI routes, plus with possibly more still to come from them.
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 16:33
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TUI have added as expected Mahon back into the schedule for next summer 2020
The flight departs on a Friday morning now

There is still a gap left on Wednesday morning which I think will be Naples

This now confirms a second based aircraft from Friday to Sunday

Great news to see this happening with TUI
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Old 4th Jul 2019, 15:23
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TUI seem to be messing around with the schedule again with Mahon removed from sale on Friday for 2020

Not sure what is happening to be honest , at the moment there are still 2 gaps left in the flying program it could be that the Wednesday gap gets filled with something and the 2 nd aircraft that starts on a Friday now positions in to start the afternoon flight instead ?
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Old 6th Jul 2019, 09:57
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Considering the 737-Max issues it's anyones guess if TUI can still operate their full schedule from anywhere in 2020
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Old 7th Jul 2019, 09:09
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Yep indeed when it goes Pete Tong it really does in high season - not something you want when you already have a dozen ACMI airlines on your books to cover the 9 MAX's

BOH has taken a bit of a Tech pounding, but it seems many TUI bases are affected with delays and AOG's

From AVHerald Incident: Titan A320
operating for TUI flight BY517
RAK-LGW
Mayday near Bordeaux on Jul 5th 2019, engine stall

A Titan Airways Airbus A320 on behalf of TUI Airways, registration G-POWM was enroute at FL360 over the Bay of Biscay about 100nm northwest of Bordeaux when the crew declared a Mayday reporting they were descending due to an engine (IAE V2527) stall. The aircraft diverted to Bordeaux for a safe landing on runway 23 about 35 minutes later.
A listener on frequency reported the crew called Mayday due to an engine stall and reported they were descending. After working the checklists they requested to divert to Bordeaux.

The occurrence aircraft is still on the ground in Bordeaux about 31 hours after landing.

So Titan then have now try to cover the AOG of this one for the TUI contracts....
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Old 16th Jul 2019, 10:42
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P & O cruises are up grading the Barbados flights next January and March from a TUI B 788 to a series 9 aircraft

Ryanair have added an extra 6 flights to Faro and 3 extra flights to Krakow in Dec/ Jan to cover the holiday season , these destinations havenít seen extra capacity at that time of year before
This is in addition to extra flights to ALC and AGP

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