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Old 29th Mar 2019, 12:08
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Regarding Ryanair services to Paphos at least February was an improvement over January.

Month/Pax/Load Factor

Nov'18 2,742 81%
Dec 18 2,593 76%
Jan 19 1,605 53%
Feb 19 2,051 68%

Hopefully March will be even better, although TUI start operating in competition to Ryanair during this month so thats 3 weekly services to Paphos. Perhaps over-capacity?
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 17:54
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So, does anyone know how the Dublin service did today? Was it a decent load factor?
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Old 5th Apr 2019, 10:11
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Superbreak are returning next winter , Feb 24 with an Akureyri Iceland charter using Titan aircraft

Hays travel have added another Barbados cruise charter departing Oct 2020 , using TUI 787 , they seem to do well on these services

Hurtigruten have added a Nov flight to Bergen this year , with another 2 operating in Jan and March 2020 again using a Titan aircraft

Looks to be 7 Santa flights over the Xmas period with Enter air , TUI and Titan operating the services will give dates nearer the time

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Old 8th Apr 2019, 16:52
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Issues at SOU with TUI no longer selling Flybe summer 2019 flights to the sun destinations. Whether those flights are still continuing seems to be anyoneís guess although Flybe are still selling them. It looks like a reduced schedule though I canít really tell. Canít. Mahon is operated by a Q400 (for the second year running) which for many will be a first and last experience. Compared with the passenger experience of a 737-800 with TUI from BOH there is no contest! TUI need to put Mahon back on sale next year (2020) from BOH. Why did they remove it!!!!

What a mess. But BOH stands to benefit.
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Old 8th Apr 2019, 17:44
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Originally Posted by Sharklet_321 View Post
Issues at SOU with TUI no longer selling Flybe summer 2019 flights to the sun destinations. Whether those flights are still continuing seems to be anyone’s guess although Flybe are still selling them. It looks like a reduced schedule though I can’t really tell. Can’t. Mahon is operated by a Q400 (for the second year running) which for many will be a first and last experience. Compared with the passenger experience of a 737-800 with TUI from BOH there is no contest! TUI need to put Mahon back on sale next year (2020) from BOH. Why did they remove it!!!!

What a mess. But BOH stands to benefit.
I should think that right now TUI are scrabbling around trying to run a summer programme with at least 6 737 MAX plus the 2 others that were due all now not in service, plus 757 retirements that I guess will be scaled back as so to hang on to those 757's for a while longer if possible (but some are already sold for freighter conversions)
Also many outstation like BOH SOU and EXT are seeing 3rd party airlines operate their flights (albastar volotea freebird air europa etc)

The 787's are being utilised on more short haul, and 2 x 737 flights combined into one if at all possible as seen on MAN-BHX-RHO the other day

Gonna be a fun year working in Ops and traffic lol
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Old 8th Apr 2019, 17:55
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Originally Posted by Sharklet_321 View Post
Issues at SOU with TUI no longer selling Flybe summer 2019 flights to the sun destinations. Whether those flights are still continuing seems to be anyone’s guess although Flybe are still selling them. It looks like a reduced schedule though I can’t really tell. Can’t. Mahon is operated by a Q400 (for the second year running) which for many will be a first and last experience. Compared with the passenger experience of a 737-800 with TUI from BOH there is no contest! TUI need to put Mahon back on sale next year (2020) from BOH. Why did they remove it!!!!

What a mess. But BOH stands to benefit.
I think you are right. BOH has the benefit of airport infrastructure and runway length, if not the rail and road connections of SOU. It is runway length, or lack of, that is now weighing down on SOU, plus all the eggs in one basket which is the management crash that is Flybe.

There has to be some courage to invest in SOU now as more and more operators have pulled out, and regrettably the current narrative is all negative.
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Old 8th Apr 2019, 18:05
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To be fair here , BOH , EXT and SOU have always had 3rd party airlines operating a few of their services as the based aircraft at BOH and EXT are fully committed
This year they have increased flying from local UK airports and have called upon the services of Freebird , Norwegian and Air Europa as usual to operate these new routes

Its early in the season so of course to combine 2 UK airports makes sense when the loads are low but come 1 st May its game on !!

There are 2 787 s already committed this summer to operate around the Med as already discussed on the TUI page and again they can't change this at this late stage

Do agree however with " ROG " the schedule is going to very tight this summer and will no doubt at some point see it fall apart with all the usual summer problems taking there toll
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Old 8th Apr 2019, 18:33
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I should imagine in sheer desperation TUI are trying to reactivate the 3 757's that just last month were retired if at all possible - I'm not sure of their fates though - scrap/freighter or costly C checks due?
plus get back the Sunwing 738 leases if poss too?....but that would be breaking their contract with Sunwing, who have their own MAX's grounded

What a summer this will be...I wonder if reservations are canning pax numbers to enable combining more flights onto one 787?

and back to SOU - any news on the LOLO airline of choice? that's gonna be rather interesting at this late stage
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Old 11th Apr 2019, 09:44
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Good to see Easy jet return for another winter season

6 flights again a week , with the 2nd Saturday flight upgraded to a A320 as is Thursday now A320 .
Crystal ski take a large allocation on the weekends which prove popular
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Old 12th Apr 2019, 09:50
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Any one know what happened to TUI this week. Flight from TFS diverted to Faro then flew on to BOH. Next day flight to PFO was six hours late leaving. Return had to divert to BRS as BOH is closed at 2.30am. TUI brought another ac from Gatwick for next days flight
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Old 12th Apr 2019, 11:30
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I wonder if the new management sales team has looked at non BOH originators? Some research on destinations that are low-cost carrier hubs might prove more beneficial than forever hoping Ryanair or TUI will add an extra aircraft.

BOH has amazing potential to attract visitors to the Jurrasic Coast, Salisbury, as recent events die down, and London is easily accessible, must make some joint destinations potentially viable.
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Old 12th Apr 2019, 17:53
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TUI in recent days have been re scheduling quite a few flights for next summer 2020

Nothing to get excited about yet but there could be a possibility of a 2nd based aircraft for the weekend , there are still lots of gaps and missing flights but it could all come together

Mon
BOH CFU BOH LPA BOH

Tue
BOH PMI BOH KEF BOH

Wed
BOH .... BOH PFO BOH

Thu
BOH PMI BOH ACE BOH

Fri
BOH CFU BOH TFS BOH

A/C 2 BOH .... BOH HER BOH

Sat
BOH PMI BOH RHO BOH

A/C 2 BOH ... BOH AYT BOH

Sun
BOH ACE BOH BOH ... BOH

A/C 2 BOH PMI BOH ZTH BOH

Missing at the moment is Mahon , Ibiza and Naples . Antalya has been brought back in house and DLM is operated probably by Freebird
TUI officially launch there 2020 programme on 25 April with all the remaining holidays going on sale then , so should have a better idea if a 2nd aircraft could be put in place for some of the week , here's hoping .....

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Old 12th Apr 2019, 23:36
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I would say that’s super exciting

I only wish they would offer Croatia (Dubrovnik, Pula and Split) and Funchal from Bournemouth. Hope that comes in 2020.
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Old 13th Apr 2019, 14:01
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MARKEYD surely TUI wouldn’t base a second aircraft only for the weekends? In this case Fri, Sat and Sun. Isn’t that operationally more challenging than just basing a permant second aircraft? Is anyone aware of TUI doing this sort of pattern anywhere else?
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Old 13th Apr 2019, 19:35
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Out of curiosity, who is the ground handling agent at Bournemouth? Is it Swissport? Just as Bournemouth airport advertising CSA and ramp jobs but not mentioning Swissport etc.

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Old 13th Apr 2019, 21:47
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BOH is creating its own ground handling from June 2019 and the contract with Swissport is terminated.
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Old 13th Apr 2019, 22:05
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BOH is creating its own ground handling from June 2019 and the contract with Swissport is terminated.
Has already happened apparently, as of the 1st April.
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 04:17
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TUI summer 2020

Hi all ,
TUI have added a Monday flight to Corfu in addition to the Friday flight for 2020
Also a new Sunday flight to zante for 2020
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 09:19
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Thats fantastic news from TUI and looking more likely to have a 2nd aircraft from Friday - Sunday now

This leaves only 4 flights to fill in the gaps and with Mahon , Ibiza and Naples not loaded yet it shouldn't be problem

Prehaps with no Jet 2 announcement for 2020 , TUI are jumping in quick to claim there spot

Have edited post 573 and filled in the gaps
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 10:42
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This leaves only 4 flights to fill in the gaps and with Mahon , Ibiza and Naples not loaded yet it shouldn't be problem
Assuming Ibiza is on it's usual Wednesday, will a 2nd A/C also be required for that day, due to the longer leg Paphos flight??
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