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And as has been pointed out to you before, Shannon and Cardiff are two completely different markets. If you fail to accept that then it proves you are the delusional fantasist that that you appear to be.
Anyway, let's get back to discussing Bristol. Take the fantasy chat back to the CWL thread.
Anyway, let's get back to discussing Bristol. Take the fantasy chat back to the CWL thread.
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Shannon may be in the middle of nowhere but you can pre-clear there for the USA - much faster than going to LHR or Brium and standing in a line for 2 hours on arrival stateside
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It failed with WOW but not with easyJet which continues to operate the route. WOW’s problem was was two fold:
First, they were competing with easyJet on point to point where there is probably not a big enough market for two airlines to Keflavik. easyJet was always likely to come out top on point to point because of its prominence in the UK.
Second, WOW's transatlantic connectivity via Keflavik was often found to be no cheaper than using EIR or KLM via DUB or AMS from BRS when all the add-ons were taken into account. Furthermore, they were particularly unreliable at BRS with many delays of up to eight hours or more leading to missed connections at KEF.
It’s not as straightforward as that from the BRS perspective and certainly not from the point of view of many passengers. bmi regional operates BRS-FRA 3 x daily and BRS-MUC 2 x daily. Both routes are Lufthansa code shares and are well patronised.
If Ryanair began a BRS-FRA or BRS-MUC route (Ryanair only operates from Dublin to Munich so a BRS route would be highly unlikely) or both, they might not even be daily and would only be point to point. It would undoubtedly affect bmir's routes to these German cities from BRS as the point to point element would almost certainly be reduced. This might lead to a reduction of the bmir schedule or at worst the axing of the route or routes.
As I mentioned in an earlier post the DUB, ORK and NOC routes are well used from BRS and there is no reason to believe that SNN will not enjoy similar patronage. You might not think the provincial Irish routes are worth much and of course you are entitled to that opinion. Clearly it’s not shared by the airlines or the many passengers or they would not be using these services.
First, they were competing with easyJet on point to point where there is probably not a big enough market for two airlines to Keflavik. easyJet was always likely to come out top on point to point because of its prominence in the UK.
Second, WOW's transatlantic connectivity via Keflavik was often found to be no cheaper than using EIR or KLM via DUB or AMS from BRS when all the add-ons were taken into account. Furthermore, they were particularly unreliable at BRS with many delays of up to eight hours or more leading to missed connections at KEF.
If Ryanair began a BRS-FRA or BRS-MUC route (Ryanair only operates from Dublin to Munich so a BRS route would be highly unlikely) or both, they might not even be daily and would only be point to point. It would undoubtedly affect bmir's routes to these German cities from BRS as the point to point element would almost certainly be reduced. This might lead to a reduction of the bmir schedule or at worst the axing of the route or routes.
As I mentioned in an earlier post the DUB, ORK and NOC routes are well used from BRS and there is no reason to believe that SNN will not enjoy similar patronage. You might not think the provincial Irish routes are worth much and of course you are entitled to that opinion. Clearly it’s not shared by the airlines or the many passengers or they would not be using these services.
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So far new routes this year include Shannon , cologne , Gothenburg , genoa , Valencia , seville , enfidha ,Hurghada and punta Cana with Montego Bay for April next year plus extra flights from to the likes of Bilbao , Malaga , nice , Pisa , Copenhagen and many more. Not bad is it ?
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Shannon................its in the middle of nowhere......
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I'm assuming you meant MONTEGO BAY in Jamaica rather than MONTENEGRO BAY as in the country which hasn't a bay of that name.
I think that Cancun would probably work better from Cardiff than MONTEGO BAY which has seen a decline in bookings over the last year and especially regarding the recent events shown on TV with troops on the streets of MONTEGO Bay, the reputation of Jamaica being a relaxing and prestigious long haul destination is slowly diminishing as their are other countries offering the same but in a more safer environment.
I think that Cancun would probably work better from Cardiff than MONTEGO BAY which has seen a decline in bookings over the last year and especially regarding the recent events shown on TV with troops on the streets of MONTEGO Bay, the reputation of Jamaica being a relaxing and prestigious long haul destination is slowly diminishing as their are other countries offering the same but in a more safer environment.
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New scheduled routes from BRS for Winter 17 onwards
Cologne - 4x weekly, RYR - Started November 17
Stockholm - 2x weekly, EZY - Started November 17
Athens - 2x weekly, EZY - Started November 17
Gothenburg - 2x weekly, BMR - Started January 18
Shannon - 2x weekly, RYR - Starts May 18
Genoa - 2x weekly, EZY - Starts June 18
Seville - 2x weekly, EZY - Starts June 18
Seville - 2x weekly, RYR - Starts November 18
New regular charter flights from BRS for Winter 17 onwards
Hurghada - 1x weekly, TUI - Starts March 18 (Will also be new route for TCX)
Punta Cana - 1x weekly, TUI - Starts April 18 (New Route for BRS)
Burgas - 1x weekly, TCX - Starts May 18 (Currently served by BH Air and TUI)
Enfidha - 1x weekly, TUI - Starts May 18 (New route this year)
Girona - 1x weekly, TCX - Starts May 18 (Currently served by Ryanair and TUI)
Hurghada - 1x weekly, TCX - Starts May 18 (Will also be new route for TUI)
Kos - 1x weekly, TCX - Starts May 18 (Currently served by TUI)
Paphos - 1x weekly, TCX - Starts May 18 (Currently served by easyJet and TUI)
Preveza - 1x weekly, TCX - Starts May 18 (New Route for BRS)
Skiathos - 1x weekly, TUI - Starts May 18 (Currently served by TCX)
Verona - 1x weekly, TUI (operated by NEOS) - Starts May 18 (New route this year)
Marrakesh - 1x weekly, TUI - Starts November 18 (New route this year)
Keflavik - 2x weekly, TUI - Starts November 18 (Currently served by EZY)
Cologne - 4x weekly, RYR - Started November 17
Stockholm - 2x weekly, EZY - Started November 17
Athens - 2x weekly, EZY - Started November 17
Gothenburg - 2x weekly, BMR - Started January 18
Shannon - 2x weekly, RYR - Starts May 18
Genoa - 2x weekly, EZY - Starts June 18
Seville - 2x weekly, EZY - Starts June 18
Seville - 2x weekly, RYR - Starts November 18
New regular charter flights from BRS for Winter 17 onwards
Hurghada - 1x weekly, TUI - Starts March 18 (Will also be new route for TCX)
Punta Cana - 1x weekly, TUI - Starts April 18 (New Route for BRS)
Burgas - 1x weekly, TCX - Starts May 18 (Currently served by BH Air and TUI)
Enfidha - 1x weekly, TUI - Starts May 18 (New route this year)
Girona - 1x weekly, TCX - Starts May 18 (Currently served by Ryanair and TUI)
Hurghada - 1x weekly, TCX - Starts May 18 (Will also be new route for TUI)
Kos - 1x weekly, TCX - Starts May 18 (Currently served by TUI)
Paphos - 1x weekly, TCX - Starts May 18 (Currently served by easyJet and TUI)
Preveza - 1x weekly, TCX - Starts May 18 (New Route for BRS)
Skiathos - 1x weekly, TUI - Starts May 18 (Currently served by TCX)
Verona - 1x weekly, TUI (operated by NEOS) - Starts May 18 (New route this year)
Marrakesh - 1x weekly, TUI - Starts November 18 (New route this year)
Keflavik - 2x weekly, TUI - Starts November 18 (Currently served by EZY)
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Thanks for the list, Severn. Having said that WOW had pulled out of Keflavik partly because there was not enough room for two point to point airlines on the route I'd forgotten that TUI is to start its own service next winter. Presumably easyJet will continue next winter too.
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Seville is bookable with easyJet. It's not bookable with Ryanair yet because it doesn't begin until the winter and nothing from BRS is bookable yet for that season. Ryanair's TFS route from CWL is not yet bookable for next winter either.
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Ryanair Winter 2018-2019
Yet to be officially announced but the Ryanair booking engine shows four new routes for next winter:
Limoges 2 x weekly - has been summer only for much of the past decade
Valencia 2 x weekly - previously summer only and was switched to Castellon in 2015, but returns to Valencia for summer 2018
Seville 2 x weekly - new route, previously operated in summer 2010 and 2011
Knock 3 x weekly - was year-round until 2011 but summer-only since then
In addition Alicante increases from 5 x weekly in winter 17/18 to 6 x weekly and Venice MP increases from 4 x weekly in winter 17/18 to daily (if easyJet maintains its Venice MP schedule of winter 17/18 there will be 14 flights per week across both airlines in winter 18/19 which might be a touch ambitious).
On the debit side Arrecife reduces to 3 x weekly in winter 18/19 from 4 x weekly in winter 17/18.
The above addtions are all bookable for winter 18/19 except Limoges and Valencia that currently show booking availability only until 17 December.
If all of the above is confirmed winter 18/19 will see 24 routes and 88 weekly rotations.This would be a continuation of Ryanair's winter growth at BRS over recent years with winter 15/16 operating 15 routes and 55 weekly rotations; winter 16/17 19 routes and 69 weekly rotations; winter 17/18 20 routes and 76 weekly rotations.
The summer offering has seen very modest growth over the same period in terms of the number of flights, with one or two routes disappearing to be replaced by others.
Limoges 2 x weekly - has been summer only for much of the past decade
Valencia 2 x weekly - previously summer only and was switched to Castellon in 2015, but returns to Valencia for summer 2018
Seville 2 x weekly - new route, previously operated in summer 2010 and 2011
Knock 3 x weekly - was year-round until 2011 but summer-only since then
In addition Alicante increases from 5 x weekly in winter 17/18 to 6 x weekly and Venice MP increases from 4 x weekly in winter 17/18 to daily (if easyJet maintains its Venice MP schedule of winter 17/18 there will be 14 flights per week across both airlines in winter 18/19 which might be a touch ambitious).
On the debit side Arrecife reduces to 3 x weekly in winter 18/19 from 4 x weekly in winter 17/18.
The above addtions are all bookable for winter 18/19 except Limoges and Valencia that currently show booking availability only until 17 December.
If all of the above is confirmed winter 18/19 will see 24 routes and 88 weekly rotations.This would be a continuation of Ryanair's winter growth at BRS over recent years with winter 15/16 operating 15 routes and 55 weekly rotations; winter 16/17 19 routes and 69 weekly rotations; winter 17/18 20 routes and 76 weekly rotations.
The summer offering has seen very modest growth over the same period in terms of the number of flights, with one or two routes disappearing to be replaced by others.
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Some posters really show their immaturity don't they :-)
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Snow
52 of the airport's scheduled 79 departures today were cancelled and 53 of the 79 arrivals were also cancelled (Thursday).
Nothing departed after about 1400 following airlines' operational decisions but inbounds continued to land until around 1800. A TUI B757 from Arrecife due in at 1845 diverted to MAN after circing overhead BRS for about 40 minutes.
Of tomorrow's 85 scheduled departures 34 have already been cancelled.
Nothing departed after about 1400 following airlines' operational decisions but inbounds continued to land until around 1800. A TUI B757 from Arrecife due in at 1845 diverted to MAN after circing overhead BRS for about 40 minutes.
Of tomorrow's 85 scheduled departures 34 have already been cancelled.
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The BRS runway re-opened around 1200 today (Friday). However, most of today's 85 departures and 85 arrivals have been cancelled by the airlines as a precautiionary measure.
A few have operated or are not yet shown as cancelled:
Ryanair from to Cologne and Alicante operating - both inbounds already arrived
Thomas Cook to Tenerife operating - has departed
TUI to Tenerife showing 'checkin'
bmi regional to Munich, Frankfurt, Dusseldorf, Brussels and Aberdeen showing 'checkin' (these are the afternoon departures; the earlier rotations on these routes and other bmi regional routes were cancelled)
Blue Islands/Flybe to Jersey showing 'checkin'
Surrounding roads are still difficult and all bus services to and from the airport have been taken off the road by their operators because of road conditions.
Addendum
bmi regional flights to FRA, MUC and DUS now cancelled as is the Blue Islands/Flybe flight to JER. The TUI to TFS is showing 'final boarding' so it looks as though it will operate.
A few have operated or are not yet shown as cancelled:
Ryanair from to Cologne and Alicante operating - both inbounds already arrived
Thomas Cook to Tenerife operating - has departed
TUI to Tenerife showing 'checkin'
bmi regional to Munich, Frankfurt, Dusseldorf, Brussels and Aberdeen showing 'checkin' (these are the afternoon departures; the earlier rotations on these routes and other bmi regional routes were cancelled)
Blue Islands/Flybe to Jersey showing 'checkin'
Surrounding roads are still difficult and all bus services to and from the airport have been taken off the road by their operators because of road conditions.
Addendum
bmi regional flights to FRA, MUC and DUS now cancelled as is the Blue Islands/Flybe flight to JER. The TUI to TFS is showing 'final boarding' so it looks as though it will operate.
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Good job
Great job by the airport for keeping the runway open to allow the flights which are operating to operate safely.
Some airports are closed until 6am tomorrow at the earliest.
Some airports are closed until 6am tomorrow at the earliest.
