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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 01:15
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Since EI and BFS had their huge fall-out, EI seldom divert there. You'll often see Cityjet and the Ryan's but not EI. Passenger convenience is trumped by politics.
As for LDY.. it's not a realistic option and doesn't feature in the diversion plans of any of our serving airlines. If LDY wishes to feature in anybody's future plans it needs to start again with a blank page. There's nobody up there with a clue about realistically running a regional airport. local councils and airports just don't mix. The money that was awarded to BMIR for their STN service could've started a national airline, employed a hundred staff and had a European network. Instead they got a double daily pencil jet that is regularly sub leased to a variety of turboprop operators.

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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 06:26
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EI never divert to BFS, I think that they should make their customers fully aware of this, as this is a great inconvenience.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 06:46
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local councils and airports just don't mix.
Somebody should tell MAG!

Instead they got a double daily pencil jet that is regularly sub leased to a variety of turboprop operators.
Last I can find is 23 May?
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 07:05
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Christ Husky. Merry Christmas to you too!
FR have used LDY as a div for NOC on occasion, though not that recently. Stobart/EIR divert there when Donegal is out. Seems to work okay.

As SWBKCB said, there hasn’t been a turboprop on the LDY-STN route since May, though what that’s got to do with a BE EXT-BHD diverting to PIK at the same time as BE flights from LPL and LBA were landing at City is beyond me.

I reckon I’d rather end up on the same island as the airport I’d intended flying to in an ATR than end up in PIK.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 08:04
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Ten aircraft were waiting to land due fog. BEE Ext service requested BFS but was told was full and took pik option to refuel then returned to Bhd.So passengers got back to destination quicker than having to bus from international.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 08:06
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Thanks Dan. Question answered. The BHD website was never updated with this information. I have an interest as I’m off to Devon today, returning tomorrow, not that I’m expecting any issues.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 09:57
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Since EI and BFS had their huge fall-out, EI never divert there.
EI never divert to BFS
Huh? EI-EDP went into International just after midnight on 11 December when it was too late for City arrival. Offloaded pax and positioned to Dublin, then back up to City a few hours later to commence scheduled service.

No emergency, just very late.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...ei-edp#fcb8a41

Not an FR24 glitch, plenty of witnesses.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 10:32
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By all accounts EI pilots not allowed to divert to BFS unless it is an emergency.
By all accounts, false.


If this is not the case give me 1 good reason why they diverted to DUB.
There could be many factors to be considered in the decision, and most of us on here aren't privy to them as we weren't involved but that doesn't lead us to making assumptions that EI cannot divert to BFS for political reasons. Jumping the gun a bit there.


Since EI and BFS had their huge fall-out, EI never divert there.
Never? Really? There's been a few Shamrock tails in BFS since they moved their operation to BHD, so I'm not sure how you've arrived at this conclusion.


EI never divert to BFS, I think that they should make their customers fully aware of this, as this is a great inconvenience.
Again... not sure where this 'never' assumption is coming from? I'm also not aware of any airline that makes their customers aware of their alternates airports, or how they'd keep this up to date bearing in mind operational reasons vary from day to day, but obviously EI should be informing their customers that they ''never'' divert to BFS.

Originally Posted by El Bunto View Post
Huh? EI-EDP went into International just after midnight on 11 December when it was too late for City arrival. Offloaded pax and positioned to Dublin, then back up to City a few hours later to commence scheduled service.

No emergency, just very late.
Now now El Bunto, don't let the facts get in the way of the fanatics and their claims. Remember, EI NEVER go to BFS
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 11:45
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I've taken the opportunity of changing never to 'seldom' to satisfy the pedantic.
Whatever way you dress it up, Aer Lingus make a point of avoiding BFS. It is not their commercial alternate and I'm pretty sure BFS couldn't care less either. The only losers are the passengers who face a 100 trek instead of 20.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 11:51
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Originally Posted by dantheflyboy View Post
Ten aircraft were waiting to land due fog. BEE Ext service requested BFS but was told was full and took pik option to refuel then returned to Bhd.So passengers got back to destination quicker than having to bus from international.
Dont know where you get the 10 aircraft.There were 5 in the Magee hold and BFS had plenty of room for them all
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 13:50
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BFS fan boys its been 5 years since they moved, I think most of you need to let it go at this stage.

Just to add if the full comment was correct, they may have said the same to EI.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 16:19
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I can tell you 100% that BFS do not turn away EI just for being EI. Like you say, it has been 5 years and their money is as good as anyone else's.

I also doubt BFS would have declared full but you are just getting into he said/she said at this point.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 18:55
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Originally Posted by Husky One View Post
Since EI and BFS had their huge fall-out, EI seldom divert there. You'll often see Cityjet and the Ryan's but not EI. Passenger convenience is trumped by politics.
As for LDY.. it's not a realistic option and doesn't feature in the diversion plans of any of our serving airlines. If LDY wishes to feature in anybody's future plans it needs to start again with a blank page. There's nobody up there with a clue about realistically running a regional airport. local councils and airports just don't mix. The money that was awarded to BMIR for their STN service could've started a national airline, employed a hundred staff and had a European network. Instead they got a double daily pencil jet that is regularly sub leased to a variety of turboprop operators.
I know this is a BHD thread but that is the best view i've heard on my local. Share the same opinion with you mate
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Old 31st Dec 2017, 15:24
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CAA November Stats

November was a very good month for BHD, with the airport recording 2% growth. However the rolling passenger figure is 2,558,113 which is down 4.4%.

Domestic routes generally performed very well, with double digit growth on most routes;

Cardiff (+58%), East Midlands (+29%), Exeter (+25%), Leeds (+11%), Liverpool (+24%), London City (+25%), Southampton (+10%).

There were decreases on 3 Scottish routes however - Edinburgh (-9%), Glasgow (-20%), Inverness (-6%).

Only two international routes operated during November;

AMS is continuing to perform well (+27%). It should be noted that BHD-AMS is now performing better than INV-AMS when KLM announced the introduction of a second daily flight on that route.

KEF continues to perform poorly, with an average load factor of just 36%. However I did hear that a) several flights were cancelled and b) the route was operated a few times by the Q200, so this may have affected the figures.
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Old 31st Dec 2017, 18:36
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BHD AMS is inneed of a second rotation
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Old 16th Jan 2018, 19:44
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EI

Any confirmation if ASL operating the EI sun flights this Summer?
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Old 16th Jan 2018, 20:56
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Nothing showing on website, still states operated by EI.
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Old 17th Jan 2018, 07:17
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Yes it's ASL operating for aerlingus using a 737-300.
Only the faro and malaga route only
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Old 17th Jan 2018, 08:34
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Will ASL be based in BHD then?
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Old 17th Jan 2018, 08:42
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Yes it will.
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