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Nothing official yet.
Rolling year to the end of September was 2.61m
For the last two months compared to 2017, Paris (Air France), Faro, Lisbon and Luton were gained. Newcastle and Providence were lost. So I suspect it will be around the 2.8m-2.9m mark for the year.
Incidentally, in a sign that the route struggels with capacity in the lean months, Air France aren't flying to Paris on Tuesday and Wednesday in January and February, while Aer Lingus aren't on Tuesday and Saturday in January. Clearly no collusion as there are no Tuesday flights at all, but two flights on Thursdays, which isn't a much busier day.
Rolling year to the end of September was 2.61m
For the last two months compared to 2017, Paris (Air France), Faro, Lisbon and Luton were gained. Newcastle and Providence were lost. So I suspect it will be around the 2.8m-2.9m mark for the year.
Incidentally, in a sign that the route struggels with capacity in the lean months, Air France aren't flying to Paris on Tuesday and Wednesday in January and February, while Aer Lingus aren't on Tuesday and Saturday in January. Clearly no collusion as there are no Tuesday flights at all, but two flights on Thursdays, which isn't a much busier day.
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Nothing official yet.
Rolling year to the end of September was 2.61m
For the last two months compared to 2017, Paris (Air France), Faro, Lisbon and Luton were gained. Newcastle and Providence were lost. So I suspect it will be around the 2.8m-2.9m mark for the year.
Incidentally, in a sign that the route struggels with capacity in the lean months, Air France aren't flying to Paris on Tuesday and Wednesday in January and February, while Aer Lingus aren't on Tuesday and Saturday in January. Clearly no collusion as there are no Tuesday flights at all, but two flights on Thursdays, which isn't a much busier day.
Rolling year to the end of September was 2.61m
For the last two months compared to 2017, Paris (Air France), Faro, Lisbon and Luton were gained. Newcastle and Providence were lost. So I suspect it will be around the 2.8m-2.9m mark for the year.
Incidentally, in a sign that the route struggels with capacity in the lean months, Air France aren't flying to Paris on Tuesday and Wednesday in January and February, while Aer Lingus aren't on Tuesday and Saturday in January. Clearly no collusion as there are no Tuesday flights at all, but two flights on Thursdays, which isn't a much busier day.
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Sorry. There should be a 3 in all those. Not sure what happened. Those figures would imply 25%+ growth.
2.361m as the rolling figure. Not that different from yours. Possibly excludes those on private flights?
And then 2.38m to 2.39m for the year.
2.361m as the rolling figure. Not that different from yours. Possibly excludes those on private flights?
And then 2.38m to 2.39m for the year.
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I got those from the DTTAS site, they include private/transit ect whereas CSO don’t
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It means that all routes out of PVD with the exception of Dublin will be cancelled this year. Cork airport management would be wise to pick up the phone and talk to WOW, JetBlue, Aer Lingus (A321 NEO) and WestJet for North Atlantic services. It`s only a question of time before Norwegian goes bankrupt.
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Rome FCO will remain as a base, but only for Dreamliners, not for 737s.
WOW has axed all but four TATL routes as well.
It means that all routes out of PVD with the exception of Dublin will be cancelled this year. Cork airport management would be wise to pick up the phone and talk to WOW, JetBlue, Aer Lingus (A321 NEO) and WestJet for North Atlantic services. It`s only a question of time before Norwegian goes bankrupt.
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I can only see WestJet and JetBlue from that list being at all possible and JetBlue very unlikely. Air Canada Rouge may be another airline to throw in the mix though.
The blow to Cork will be largely psychological, losing the only TA link. Passenger numbers were likely to be a total of around 1% of airport passengers next year. This will be much worse in Shannon, where Norwegian represent about 5% of total passengers. Shannon is more likely to pick up replacement carriers though.
The blow to Cork will be largely psychological, losing the only TA link. Passenger numbers were likely to be a total of around 1% of airport passengers next year. This will be much worse in Shannon, where Norwegian represent about 5% of total passengers. Shannon is more likely to pick up replacement carriers though.
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I think people are getting a bit excited. The main routes effected are Spain-Germany.
https://e24.no/boers-og-finans/norwe...baser/24541991
The Dublin 737MAX base remains, and Norwegian have stated that there are no changes to services from Ireland. It seems an expensive set-up to have so many bases just to serve ORK/DUB/SNN and Scandinavia. It’s probably better to organise road transport to ORK/SNN or “W” patterns like DUB-PVD-ORK-PVD-DUB. EI have been doing it for years.
https://e24.no/boers-og-finans/norwe...baser/24541991
The Dublin 737MAX base remains, and Norwegian have stated that there are no changes to services from Ireland. It seems an expensive set-up to have so many bases just to serve ORK/DUB/SNN and Scandinavia. It’s probably better to organise road transport to ORK/SNN or “W” patterns like DUB-PVD-ORK-PVD-DUB. EI have been doing it for years.
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Irish routes remaining
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rte.ie/amp/1023693/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rte.ie/amp/1023693/
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I've seen it stated in a couple of places (airport twitter account and media source) that Cork Airport handled 2.4m passengers last year. There are no official figures yet though.
That's a bit higher than the 2.38m-2.39m range that I was expecting. Now it may be that there has been rounding to two significant figures and that it is in that range. If it is actually that high, it suggests a very good November and December.
That's a bit higher than the 2.38m-2.39m range that I was expecting. Now it may be that there has been rounding to two significant figures and that it is in that range. If it is actually that high, it suggests a very good November and December.
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I've seen it stated in a couple of places (airport twitter account and media source) that Cork Airport handled 2.4m passengers last year. There are no official figures yet though.
That's a bit higher than the 2.38m-2.39m range that I was expecting. Now it may be that there has been rounding to two significant figures and that it is in that range. If it is actually that high, it suggests a very good November and December.
That's a bit higher than the 2.38m-2.39m range that I was expecting. Now it may be that there has been rounding to two significant figures and that it is in that range. If it is actually that high, it suggests a very good November and December.
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Agreed. There has been no problem with loads to Southampton. Yields may be another matter.
I suspect the aircraft could make more money on extra rotations to Birmingham or Edinburgh, although the sector time to Edinburgh may be too long to fill whatever gap is created by Southampton.
Another possibility is that with the tie-up of Stobart and FlyBe, they may transfer operation of the route to Cardiff to Stobart and sell through the EI Regional brand.
I suspect the aircraft could make more money on extra rotations to Birmingham or Edinburgh, although the sector time to Edinburgh may be too long to fill whatever gap is created by Southampton.
Another possibility is that with the tie-up of Stobart and FlyBe, they may transfer operation of the route to Cardiff to Stobart and sell through the EI Regional brand.
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Maybe there will be a transfer to flyBe. Seems a bit early for that, however. The take-over isn’t finalised yet, I don’t think?