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Old 1st Mar 2019, 23:31
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Originally Posted by racedo View Post
If they allow it to get bust it will get interesting as they will seek to allow PPL to acquire it cheaply but that will most definitely fall foul of EU competition law.
Radom Airport was built in 2014 and for years nobody was interested in flying there apart from a few short term and failed routes from various small carriers, it went bankrupt and very shortly after PPL bought it out of liquidation. It's now having hundreds of millions spent on it, to be used as an auxiliary airport for the Warsaw area, where it's been widely speculated that charters and low cost airlines from Chopin will be forced out to. PPL are the only shareholder and it will not be anywhere near as significant competitor for Chopin as Modlin, because a) PPL will control it and B) it's further out.

There's been a number of changes to the rules in Chopin Airport recently, such as voluntarily prohibiting very early departures or late arriving flights, bans on refuelling with passengers onboard and offering financial incentives for those airlines who were transferring passengers, that clearly benefit certain airlines as well as cause issues for others. PPL will tell you that this does not prove that they are favouring anyone, since the same rules apply to each airline. There's also been complaints by airlines of extended wait times for buses and bridges to arrive, being given very distant parking spots among other things.

There's a local political side to this as well, as the area that Modlin is, is not controlled by the ruling party whereas Radom is a big area for the current government, so you know, there's votes to be won here as well.
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 12:36
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Barcelona to podgorica
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Old 8th Mar 2019, 16:53
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Ryanair eliminating the Wroclaw / Gdansk / Modin to Belfast routes from October 2019 or earlier.

Friends have used Wroclaw - BFS on occasions and fares low and never been full.
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Old 9th Mar 2019, 11:54
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From Blue Swan :

Ryanair is in preliminary discussions with Airbus over ordering up to 100 A321 aircraft for Laudamotion (Reuters, 06-Mar-2019). Ryanair CEO Michael O’Leary said: “I would not see any point in having an order if it is less than 100 aircraft – 50 firm and 50 options… We are committed to being an Airbus customer through Laudamotion because in the future, as there are competition divestments or other M&A opportunities in Europe, some will be on the Airbus side and some will be on the Boeing side and we want to be able to do both”. He added the group is also interested in 737 MAX 10 aircraft for Ryanair’s fleet renewal.
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Old 9th Mar 2019, 12:08
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Originally Posted by LGS6753 View Post
From Blue Swan :

Ryanair is in preliminary discussions with Airbus over ordering up to 100 A321 aircraft for Laudamotion (Reuters, 06-Mar-2019). Ryanair CEO Michael O’Leary said: “I would not see any point in having an order if it is less than 100 aircraft – 50 firm and 50 options… We are committed to being an Airbus customer through Laudamotion because in the future, as there are competition divestments or other M&A opportunities in Europe, some will be on the Airbus side and some will be on the Boeing side and we want to be able to do both”. He added the group is also interested in 737 MAX 10 aircraft for Ryanair’s fleet renewal.
Which reads as Mr Boeing when we next come calling, "Do you wish to close a plant or keep it open, 50% discount is so last year."

The competitive divestments means he sees more acquisition opportunities.
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Old 9th Mar 2019, 13:17
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When an airline has 400+ aircraft, it is probably in its interest to have aircraft from more than one manufacturer.

Boeing will believe that any order for new aircraft is a competitive bid only if they think FR genuinely would buy from Airbus. If FR somehow always end up buying Boeing, then Boeing may no longer believe the RFP is competitive and Boeing may wish to be less generous on aircraft price. An order for 50+ 737s is most definitely worth having, but unlike 2009, the economy globally is strong enough that it won't cause immeasurable pain to Boeing if they lose it to Airbus
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Old 9th Mar 2019, 19:58
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 View Post
, but unlike 2009, the economy globally is strong enough that it won't cause immeasurable pain to Boeing if they lose it to Airbus
Boeing went to bed on September 10th 2001 feeling exactly the same way.

OTOH if they have a look at Sovreign debt levels worldwide they know Govt cuts have got to happen and this will impact cash in pocket of airline passengers.
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Old 10th Mar 2019, 19:01
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FR cancelling all flights at STUTTGART at the end of June 2019

3 routes in total
Dublin
Manchester (31/03/2019)
Marrakesh
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Old 10th Mar 2019, 19:42
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Hmmmm ... only FKB and SXB near me for the time being. BSL no longer a base and now not STR. Any particular geographical reason or solely economics?
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Old 10th Mar 2019, 20:11
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I thought it was becoming a laudamotion base instead
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Old 11th Mar 2019, 07:44
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Question - is it the Boeing Max 8, that Ryanair have ordered and intend to operate in the fleet?

Are they operating any now on trial or fully operational, and what are Ryanair's future intentions in relations to ordering this type.

I ask this question in the context of recent crashes at other airlines who have began to use this aircraft type.
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Old 11th Mar 2019, 07:55
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Originally Posted by mik3bravo View Post
Question - is it the Boeing Max 8, that Ryanair have ordered and intend to operate in the fleet?

Are they operating any now on trial or fully operational, and what are Ryanair's future intentions in relations to ordering this type.

I ask this question in the context of recent crashes at other airlines who have began to use this aircraft type.
Ryanair will be watching the world very worryingly as many airlines are today grounding the B737-Max 8.
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Old 11th Mar 2019, 08:50
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Originally Posted by daz211 View Post

Ryanair will be watching the world very worryingly as many airlines are today grounding the B737-Max 8.
The situation isn’t bad for FR compared to others. They can simply delay delivery and hang on to what they’ve got for longer should a worldwide grounding take place. It’s more an issue for those with Max already in operation like Cayman, Air China. If there were to be a full grounding even the likes of Air Canada would struggle to source 25ish spare frames at short notice.
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Old 11th Mar 2019, 08:53
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Originally Posted by mik3bravo View Post
Question - is it the Boeing Max 8, that Ryanair have ordered and intend to operate in the fleet?
Yes, with additional emergency exits. Formerly advertised as the MAX 200 but now just called a variant of the 8.

Are they operating any now on trial or fully operational
No, the first one registered EI-HAT is due for delivery in the next couple of weeks.

and what are Ryanair's future intentions in relations to ordering this type.
They'll probably drop the Gamechanger slogan...

Other than that I doubt much will change, Ryanair have an intensive ramp-up planned for the Max through 2019. Might be a delay to the timeline for any remedial work demanded by regulators but frankly when was the last time a big airline declined an aircraft type due to reputation? They have too much invested in the type.
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Old 11th Mar 2019, 09:01
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Human life not important in this?
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Old 11th Mar 2019, 09:27
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Originally Posted by mik3bravo View Post
Human life not important in this?
Unless I've missed something so far there has been absolutely zero reports that a technical fault was the cause of the tragedy yesterday. There are many many many more causes of a crash that it could be. Until an investigation has taken place and found a cause then it is purely peoples opinion and speculation. The last I heard airlines try not to work on opinion and speculation, especially those that are untrained.
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Old 11th Mar 2019, 10:09
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Originally Posted by Gulf Julliet Papa View Post
Unless I've missed something so far there has been absolutely zero reports that a technical fault was the cause of the tragedy yesterday. There are many many many more causes of a crash that it could be. Until an investigation has taken place and found a cause then it is purely peoples opinion and speculation. The last I heard airlines try not to work on opinion and speculation, especially those that are untrained.
So, there will probably be little or no discussion between senior professionals this morning, no thought given to a plan B.
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Old 11th Mar 2019, 10:39
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Originally Posted by mik3bravo View Post
Human life not important in this?
No, that's why airlines have passenger liability insurance. The insurer will indemnify the survivors and relations of the deceased, usually in a two-step process with interim and final payments.

So long as an airline can prove that it wasn't negligent then that's all, folks.
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Old 11th Mar 2019, 11:02
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And if i were the Insurer I'd be reluctant to pay out for the loss of aircraft itself, citing that the airline bought a product that is/was inherently defective.
Unless they can PROVE otherwise.
Big Court Case, methinks.
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Old 11th Mar 2019, 11:09
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Have you seen the amount of insurers turning their back on aviation insurance. It's massively loss making for insurers. Huge pressure building on aviation insurance rates and the likes of this noise is definitely driving it harder too. Airlines are likely going to face insurance rate issues around these things. Manufacturers need to get their finger out from their ass and address the issues.
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