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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 22:43
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Condor have stated on twitter that

ĎCondor continues its flight operation. We will publish updates on our website shortlyí

pic.twitter.com/sV5z33Qiyt

hopefully, itís not over just yet.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 22:45
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Not quite correct just looked MAN/MCO and flights are available on skyscanner under condor operated by Thomas Cook
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 22:56
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Perhaps a stupid question, but are thomas cook germany/condor to go bankrupt if thomas cook uk do or are they operated as 2 companies entirely separate from one another?
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 22:58
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Skyscanner is a third party and may not be up to speed.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 22:59
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Condor really makes money, Scandinavia across the tour operator and airline Makes money. Uk source market doesnít, and the uk airline doesnít. The Uk has the old My Travel / Airtours debt which means it will die. My Travel was the biggest mistake and 15 years ago was too much debt for the banks to absorb - life is different today.
Companies with credible business plans donít go bust - the uk operation has been bust for years
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 23:13
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Originally Posted by Officer Kite View Post
Perhaps a stupid question, but are thomas cook germany/condor to go bankrupt if thomas cook uk do or are they operated as 2 companies entirely separate from one another?
Both will continue to operate, confirmed fact.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 23:14
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A friend of mine works tor TCX at Manchester and he always said well at least the airline makes money
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 23:18
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So does the Uk side of the business go or everything with a Thomas cook logo ?

Hopefully the airline line side will be picked up and continue although thatís no comfort for whatís left of the 9000 staff.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 23:19
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Originally Posted by chaps1954 View Post
A friend of mine works tor TCX at Manchester and he always said well at least the airline makes money
Aparently, at least on the short haul side, the tour operation has been buying up unsold seats to make it look profitable.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 23:19
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Originally Posted by Officer Kite View Post
Perhaps a stupid question, but are thomas cook germany/condor to go bankrupt if thomas cook uk do or are they operated as 2 companies entirely separate from one another?
All the companies will be set up with different Legal status in their operating countries. The overall Holding company is Thomas Cook PLC or whatever name it goes under.

Each of the subsidaries will trade separately hence why a pilot going from Thomas Cook UK Ltd would transfer to Thomas Cook GMBH if going to Germany etc, names will not be correct but you get the idea.

When PLC / Holding company enters administration the court appointed people will seek to sell off whatever is trading as quickly as possibly with as little as disruption as possible (same with every administration). Simple reason for this is they need to be paid as well.

Anything that is unprofitable or has huge future liabilities will just be closed down quickly and everything disposed of quickly i.e. Landing slots, aircraft.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 23:20
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BBC update at 2304 on Thomas Cook

BBC television news reporting that no press release on Thomas Cooks trading position is. expected until after 0200 hours when most of fleet is on ground or inbound. BBC reiterating that Department of Transport ready for repatriation of clients if TCX goes into administration on Monday 23rd. Sky News reporting similar. Brink of collapse and could fold in hours according to BBC. Very sad news if confirmed. End of an era not helped by poor Board strategy over the last few years.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 23:23
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It looks like The Independent may have jumped the gun a bit.

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...16031.html?amp
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 23:25
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A quick look at Flight Radar shows all Thomas Cook aircraft heading one direction - home. Not looking good.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 23:31
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Condor have updated their website with a banner stating "Update on current media articles: Condor continues to fly! Flights are operating as scheduled"
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 23:35
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Originally Posted by Al94 View Post
A quick look at Flight Radar shows all Thomas Cook aircraft heading one direction - home. Not looking good.
eeerrrrr, they would be...no more UK departures until 5am ( hopefully ).
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 23:35
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Apart from the Malaysian A380, there Doesnít appear to be any convoys of aircraft making a B-Line for the U.K. like the Qatar aircraft in 2017.

I think there is more to this. Itís not over till itís over.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 23:39
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Just 2 departures left (I think), one from NBE and LCA. If an announcement comes, it'll be after these take off.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 23:40
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Originally Posted by nowhereasfiled View Post
Apart from the Malaysian A380, there Doesn’t appear to be any convoys of aircraft making a B-Line for the U.K. like the Qatar aircraft in 2017.

I think there is more to this. It’s not over till it’s over.
There are 3 Eastern 767's sat at Shannon, all arrived this afternoon, may or may not be related, but your right...there were far more in place in anticipation of MON's demise, lets hope thats a good sign.

...an Omni Int 772 is just about to join the Easterns at SNN.

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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 23:42
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Enfhida airport website now showing a Titan Airways flight back to MAN with identical timing and flight number to the scheduled Thomas Cook flight tomorrow morning. Not looking good!

Best of of luck to everyone at Thomas Cook.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 23:42
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Appears crew are being told to report as normal for tomorrow mornings flights. Can any TC crew on here confirm/deny that?
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