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I've been raising that question for a while with no conclusive response. It seems slightly odd that the airport, not just TCX, have been advertising this new route in 2018 in their PR blurb if they knew it was being dropped after only 1 season.
I couldn't find the TCX timetable of long haul routes for 2019 when I checked earlier today but a few weeks ago it was showing 38 weekly departures from MAN in 2019 compared to 44 this summer. If they are cutting back to the US, it would offset some of the 20% increase in capacity from Virgin.
If VS are a single carrier doing BOS, and TCX likewise on SFO (we know VS are dropping SFO), that may not be a bad thing in some ways. However, if SEA is chopped after just 1 season, that is disappointing.
Incidentally, in a presentation I heard a few years ago of unserved routes from MAN at that time, SFO was well ahead of LAX in terms of potential pax for a direct service. Perhaps demand has changed since, but we'll have both TCX and VS flying to LAX in 2019.
I couldn't find the TCX timetable of long haul routes for 2019 when I checked earlier today but a few weeks ago it was showing 38 weekly departures from MAN in 2019 compared to 44 this summer. If they are cutting back to the US, it would offset some of the 20% increase in capacity from Virgin.
If VS are a single carrier doing BOS, and TCX likewise on SFO (we know VS are dropping SFO), that may not be a bad thing in some ways. However, if SEA is chopped after just 1 season, that is disappointing.
Incidentally, in a presentation I heard a few years ago of unserved routes from MAN at that time, SFO was well ahead of LAX in terms of potential pax for a direct service. Perhaps demand has changed since, but we'll have both TCX and VS flying to LAX in 2019.
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The BOS / SEA have been operated by Air Tanker but with two A330 allegedly going to Jet 2 next summer it would appear that TCX will not have an Air Tanker aircraft available, so maybe the delay in publishing the schedule is they are trying to source a A330 for the operation ?
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TCX are indeed sourcing an A330 to replace the frame going back to Air Tanker. According to Routesonline:
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...ervice-in-s19/
LAX decreases by 1 a week
SFO change of day of operation
SEA increase to 3 a week
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...ervice-in-s19/
LAX decreases by 1 a week
SFO change of day of operation
SEA increase to 3 a week
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Thomas Cook S19 long haul changes for MAN
BOS appears at this stage to be gone
LAX from 3 > 2 weekly
MCO from 9 > 13 weekly (3 flights on Sundays)
JFK from 7 > 8 weekly (2nd flight on Mondays)
CUN from 6 > 9 weekly
MBJ reintroduced at 1 weekly
SEA from 2 > 3 weekly
appears to be 8 based A330 Although 9 required on Mondays. Spaces for more long haul but may well be used to backfill short haul. If 9 aircraft are used then lots of spaces. Rumours of MSY/BWI but obviously unconfirmed.
BOS appears at this stage to be gone
LAX from 3 > 2 weekly
MCO from 9 > 13 weekly (3 flights on Sundays)
JFK from 7 > 8 weekly (2nd flight on Mondays)
CUN from 6 > 9 weekly
MBJ reintroduced at 1 weekly
SEA from 2 > 3 weekly
appears to be 8 based A330 Although 9 required on Mondays. Spaces for more long haul but may well be used to backfill short haul. If 9 aircraft are used then lots of spaces. Rumours of MSY/BWI but obviously unconfirmed.
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Thomas Cooks Long Haul Flying Future...
Does anyone know what Thomas Cooks long haul plans are, with regards to new aircraft?
Just been looking the A330-200's are averaging around 13.4yrs old and the A330-300's are around 18yrs old. When you add into the mix the Condor 767's which are averaging nearly 23yrs old, I guess the airline needs to consider the next move for the long haul fleet in the next 18-24 months and would make sense to probably make one large order for the whole group to secure the best deal, with the first deliveries going to Condor and doing staggered deliveries over maybe a five year period, the current A330-200's will be reaching around 18-20yrs old.
(Source: https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Thomas-Cook-Group)
Another question, can Thomas Cook Airlines maintain long haul flying as a "Scheduled" carrier for the foreseeable future from Manchester, or are they just riding the crest of a wave while there is limited low cost long haul competition from Manchester, at the moment?
I can't imagine they would be in a good place if they tried to compete with Norwegian.
Could this be why there are rumours of Thomas Cook looking for an investor in the airline side of the business, to buy new aircraft?
Just been looking the A330-200's are averaging around 13.4yrs old and the A330-300's are around 18yrs old. When you add into the mix the Condor 767's which are averaging nearly 23yrs old, I guess the airline needs to consider the next move for the long haul fleet in the next 18-24 months and would make sense to probably make one large order for the whole group to secure the best deal, with the first deliveries going to Condor and doing staggered deliveries over maybe a five year period, the current A330-200's will be reaching around 18-20yrs old.
(Source: https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Thomas-Cook-Group)
Another question, can Thomas Cook Airlines maintain long haul flying as a "Scheduled" carrier for the foreseeable future from Manchester, or are they just riding the crest of a wave while there is limited low cost long haul competition from Manchester, at the moment?
I can't imagine they would be in a good place if they tried to compete with Norwegian.
Could this be why there are rumours of Thomas Cook looking for an investor in the airline side of the business, to buy new aircraft?
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Thomas Cook S19 long haul changes for MAN
BOS appears at this stage to be gone
LAX from 3 > 2 weekly
MCO from 9 > 13 weekly (3 flights on Sundays)
JFK from 7 > 8 weekly (2nd flight on Mondays)
CUN from 6 > 9 weekly
MBJ reintroduced at 1 weekly
SEA from 2 > 3 weekly
appears to be 8 based A330 Although 9 required on Mondays. Spaces for more long haul but may well be used to backfill short haul. If 9 aircraft are used then lots of spaces. Rumours of MSY/BWI but obviously unconfirmed.
BOS appears at this stage to be gone
LAX from 3 > 2 weekly
MCO from 9 > 13 weekly (3 flights on Sundays)
JFK from 7 > 8 weekly (2nd flight on Mondays)
CUN from 6 > 9 weekly
MBJ reintroduced at 1 weekly
SEA from 2 > 3 weekly
appears to be 8 based A330 Although 9 required on Mondays. Spaces for more long haul but may well be used to backfill short haul. If 9 aircraft are used then lots of spaces. Rumours of MSY/BWI but obviously unconfirmed.
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The USA would likely have known no different but she was born in Essex and brought up in Sussex so definitely not a UK marketing tool for Manchester !
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TC Long Haul from Manchester S19
Cuba - Holguin is dropping to weekly from twice weekly, plus weekly flights to Varadero, Cayo Coco & Cayo Santa Maria
Las Vegas is operating five times a week
Cuba - Holguin is dropping to weekly from twice weekly, plus weekly flights to Varadero, Cayo Coco & Cayo Santa Maria
Las Vegas is operating five times a week
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Thomas Cook Scandinavia are using it to repatriate passengers after an aircraft got stuck in Rhodes, its clearing the backlog. Its going to be at Norwegian from tomorrow.