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Old 30th Sep 2017, 09:46
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Seems to pretty much equate to a reduction of one aircraft for the winter?
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Old 30th Sep 2017, 09:52
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Probably so compared to what was originally planned. However, I think CGN & FRA are new routes this winter, so it may not be a reduction from last year.
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Old 30th Sep 2017, 09:53
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Agree disappointing, but at least no routes lost. With CAA applying pressure on RYR to "look after" its displaced passengers a little better, perhaps the fact that MAN has alternatives to all of those cities is a factor ? I'm sure the likes of Eurowings, SN, Vueling, IB Express, Jet2, Easyjet, TAP and others will gratefully pick up any slack over the winter months
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Old 30th Sep 2017, 11:37
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FFMAN,

Apologies for the delay in replying. I think ATC and Public Relations are very different animals. It is also doubtful that an "underpaid office worker in MAG House" would be tasked with communicating with the press.

It seems to me that at the present time those in 'MAG House' have, (sadly), a degree of contempt toward their customers. their staff, and those living in earshot of the airport, which mirrors that shown by councils towards their rate-payers.
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 07:36
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Not much to add in part 2 of my "in depth" report.

Arrived last night at 11.30pm at gate 209 to find Swissport ready to receive us. short walk to the Border where all pax were directed to the E-Gates. Only 5 units in operation so around 10 minutes to get through. Bags arrived within 5 mins of getting to the carousel so into a taxi and home exactly one hour after leaving the aircraft.

More to the point - I must congratulate the Monarch crew last night for a highly professional job well done. A smooth ontime flight delivered without fuss or drama - very friendly cabin crew who kept smiling all despite the imminent news they must be dreading........

Well done ZB and good luck
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 12:02
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What’s the % increase per hour with the current two runway layout versus one?
MAN has a huge overnight based fleer which causes enormous peaks and troughs throughout the day.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 07:10
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so what are people's thoughts on the impact at MAN of Monarch collapsing?
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 08:11
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I'm sure those employees about to lose their jobs couldn't give a shit at this time about any impact on Manchester.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 08:21
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Originally Posted by Ribble56 View Post
I'm sure those employees about to lose their jobs couldn't give a shit at this time about any impact on Manchester.
I understand you maybe upset and concerned for the employees of Monarch but please understand this is a aviation forum people have the right to ask reasonable questions regarding anything aviation.
From your response to to this question I get the feeling you would rather not have any conversation regarding Monarch however I don't feel the question asked was in away misplaced if anything it's quite a reasonable question

Yes it's sad news regarding Monarch but there are millions of questions to be answered and people should be free to ask them.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 08:27
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Originally Posted by Ribble56 View Post
I'm sure those employees about to lose their jobs couldn't give a shit at this time about any impact on Manchester.
I'm sure they do give a shit unless they aren't interested in future employment in the area
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 08:47
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I feel the question was insensitive at this time.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 08:59
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In no way was it an insensitive question this is an aviation forum not a funeral parlour where we might upset someone if we are heard whispering about the dead we all feel for our friend at Monarch but I'm sure at some point we have all been there and if not we all live with the possibility of the same thing happening to us we are all adults and are free to ask questions that are on our minds
Again it's a sad loss and I'm sure we all feel for everyone at Monarch but we must carry on.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 09:38
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I have to agree with daz on this as the guys and gals will all be looking for employment and
will want to know what the other operators are planning, I am sure that the other airlines will be working very hard to try and maximise their own business out of the loss of someone else misfortune but that is business and life.
I do feel for anybody loosing their job as it is stressfull and not nice
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 10:24
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And I will come out in defence of Ribble, if only because it's too soon. They have literally woken up to the news that their income has gone, their last few weeks wages probably won't get paid and they'll be entitled to very little statutory redundancy pay from the Government.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 10:48
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......and Christmas with it's extra family expense is less than three months away.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 11:55
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British Airways parent targets Monarch assets as airline ceases operations



For Vueling? Presume Easyjet would have interest too.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 12:09
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I assume any IAG interest would be cherry picking rather than as a TOGC.

Slots at LGW for BA? Slots at MAN for Vueling?

A320/321 for any one of a number of IAG brands.

Pilots and crew to operate them (certainly if LGW based).
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 12:29
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Well, we know it's no longer as a going concern!

I imagine a lot of people will be interested in different bits of it.

I'm still secretly surprised easyJet didn't want it. Luton, Gatwick, Airbus, ... it seemed like a good fit.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 12:40
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Maybe they just want the bits that make money - hence the cherry picking!!
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 15:16
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Thomas Cook and Air Transat have signed a winter/summer exchange program that will see TCX A321s serve Canadian winter holiday destinations. Air Transat will transfer 1 A330 to TXC for Summer.

Not a new concept but good use of resources and frees up parking spaces.

(bit of a nightmare for the spotters keeping track of winter only C- regs)

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