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Refund...
I assume my airline pays to use the whole airport, I wonder if they asked for a refund?
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It might also not be good to compare yourself to an organisation that calls missing only 95% of test articles meant to be caught as a success. Keeping in mind that the security in 2001 would not have even tried to stop people with box-cutters as they were acceptable in the US at the time.
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Only way that MAG would have to pay-up is if the terms of the usage contract specified recovery of losses due to the use of Mike intersection departures, it would be based on what service level was promised vs delivered. Even then while airlines were requested and generally given Mike, the could request full length, so it might not stand. That doesn't mean the MAG did not give a refund. Incidentally, in court the airline would have to be able to demonstrate actual losses and not theoretical losses beyond just the fees payed.
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Public Transport
Pity the Airport closed down its dedicated public transport section a decade ago. They were making good progress in developing new and enhanced links at the time.
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Not quite what they had before but there is a chap now dedicated to Ground Transport (including roads, poor chap). A gentleman by the name of Rob Sawyer, a cycle commuter to boot.
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Splendid roverman.
Sadly, for the airport's average bucket-and-spade, kids-in-tow, baseball-cap wearing punters, cycling is not an option, so, unfortunately, Rob will 'hit the ground running', completely out of touch with reality.
Sadly, for the airport's average bucket-and-spade, kids-in-tow, baseball-cap wearing punters, cycling is not an option, so, unfortunately, Rob will 'hit the ground running', completely out of touch with reality.
The Virgin 744 is now scheduled to do JFK daily from 15May (instead of 4x JFK and 3x ATL). So ATL becomes a daily A332 from the same date.
Anyone remember when MAN last had a daily 747 on the JFK run ? I certainly remember BA 747-100s on the JFK route (including a daily LGW-MAN-JFK after the BCAL takeover), but can't recall if there was ever a daily turnaround flight.
Somewhat makes up for the loss of the AA210/211 capacity anyway
Anyone remember when MAN last had a daily 747 on the JFK run ? I certainly remember BA 747-100s on the JFK route (including a daily LGW-MAN-JFK after the BCAL takeover), but can't recall if there was ever a daily turnaround flight.
Somewhat makes up for the loss of the AA210/211 capacity anyway
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Gouge the customer
We all know that Manchester Airport planning that customers must pay to be dropped off and picked up at airports is just another way to extract cash and has nothing to do with congestion.
Congestion that was caused by reformatting the road system. Not that this frequent traveler has seen any congestion.
They have form on this of course. Security queue too busy. Pay for fast pass. Good way of funding the staff to man those unmanned security channels.
Day one of the new drop off regime might be interesting if cars deliberately stopped outside the charging zone and blocked all access to the airport with queues backing up to the M56.
What is Manchester’s solution? Increase door to door travel time by another 30 minutes. Reminds me of the pirate t-shirt slogan ‘the beatings will continue until morale improves’
Congestion that was caused by reformatting the road system. Not that this frequent traveler has seen any congestion.
They have form on this of course. Security queue too busy. Pay for fast pass. Good way of funding the staff to man those unmanned security channels.
Day one of the new drop off regime might be interesting if cars deliberately stopped outside the charging zone and blocked all access to the airport with queues backing up to the M56.
What is Manchester’s solution? Increase door to door travel time by another 30 minutes. Reminds me of the pirate t-shirt slogan ‘the beatings will continue until morale improves’
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Charging for drop-off seems to have enraged quite a few posters. On one had there is a demand for better roads, better terminal facilities all of which should have been delivered already, yet a total unwillingness for the airport to raise revenue. These same posters don't want drop-off fees, don't want walk-through duty-free, don't want the fast-track options to be offered. Presumably they also want the £19.99 fares too. I get that having your cake and eating it is ideal, but someone has to pay for that Billion pound cake.
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Charging for drop-off seems to have enraged quite a few posters. On one had there is a demand for better roads, better terminal facilities all of which should have been delivered already, yet a total unwillingness for the airport to raise revenue. These same posters don't want drop-off fees, don't want walk-through duty-free, don't want the fast-track options to be offered. Presumably they also want the £19.99 fares too. I get that having your cake and eating it is ideal, but someone has to pay for that Billion pound cake.
Brian, virtually every airport in the world is able to manage its drop off area (free) apart from British ones. Likewise luggage carts. Fast track option is a creation by deliberate queue management policies.
The number of people paying £19.99 for a flight is minuscule -flying is expensive. The UK has the highest APD in Europe. A one way flight to Southampton from MAN with Flybe has £26 tax added before you even start on the fare.
The number of people paying £19.99 for a flight is minuscule -flying is expensive. The UK has the highest APD in Europe. A one way flight to Southampton from MAN with Flybe has £26 tax added before you even start on the fare.
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Brian,
It’s the ‘disguise’ of the fee that is ‘enraging’ people.
They say it’s to reduce congestion. The simple fact is, people will likely just pay the fee and still drop off outside the door. People prefer convenience. This means the congestion issue is unlikely to be sorted.
The simple fact is, that MAN is now charging to make what should be an already provided Airport experience barely palatable.
Let’s take a couple travelling through the airport.
They pay £3 to drop off outside the door. Let’s say they need a trolley, that’s another £1.they then check in and see the security queue snaking around the terminal (which it seems to do more often than not now, 45mins wait again today. That’s another £7.50 for fast track.
On the return, the border queue is ridiculous again, that’s another £7.50 to avoid the queue, then another trolley, that’s another £1. Lastly, time to be picked up, that will be another £4.30 please.
So, all of those charges at nearly £25 just to make the Airport experience bearable. When plenty of other airports manage to provide said services for free, including ones with large low cost presence.
‘You want to complain about the queues, well, good for you, we’re still not going to fix the actual root of the problem, we will just encourage you to pay to avoid the problem’
World class aspirations? Barely breaking from its regional shackles with these types of charges and service. Shame really.
It’s the ‘disguise’ of the fee that is ‘enraging’ people.
They say it’s to reduce congestion. The simple fact is, people will likely just pay the fee and still drop off outside the door. People prefer convenience. This means the congestion issue is unlikely to be sorted.
The simple fact is, that MAN is now charging to make what should be an already provided Airport experience barely palatable.
Let’s take a couple travelling through the airport.
They pay £3 to drop off outside the door. Let’s say they need a trolley, that’s another £1.they then check in and see the security queue snaking around the terminal (which it seems to do more often than not now, 45mins wait again today. That’s another £7.50 for fast track.
On the return, the border queue is ridiculous again, that’s another £7.50 to avoid the queue, then another trolley, that’s another £1. Lastly, time to be picked up, that will be another £4.30 please.
So, all of those charges at nearly £25 just to make the Airport experience bearable. When plenty of other airports manage to provide said services for free, including ones with large low cost presence.
‘You want to complain about the queues, well, good for you, we’re still not going to fix the actual root of the problem, we will just encourage you to pay to avoid the problem’
World class aspirations? Barely breaking from its regional shackles with these types of charges and service. Shame really.
And equally valid comments from Brian Dromey earlier.
So either the airport are incompetent money-grabbers screwing as much as out of the poor PAX to pay for more pina colodas by the pool, or they are doing the best they can to provide some sort of service while the robber baron airline bosses compete in a race to the bottom and the Govt stands idly by counting their pile of gold, which they've done nothing to earn.
You pays yer money and takes yer choice (pun intended
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Does anybody really know the answer?
So either the airport are incompetent money-grabbers screwing as much as out of the poor PAX to pay for more pina colodas by the pool, or they are doing the best they can to provide some sort of service while the robber baron airline bosses compete in a race to the bottom and the Govt stands idly by counting their pile of gold, which they've done nothing to earn.
You pays yer money and takes yer choice (pun intended
)Does anybody really know the answer?
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