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Old 21st Sep 2017, 22:09
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But how many of the 'disgruntled masses' didn't bother to make their views known on the various internet portals?
Oh for goodness sake....I mean really ? Lots probably, same as at any other UK airport, or airline, or train customers, or motorway users...or...or.... After all, moaning is a UK national pastime

Obviously been a very quiet news day the last week...
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 23:51
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No sptraveller its about realism and not exaggerating a perceived problem.
Context IS important - Everybody strives to be better but at the end of the day there are not many perfect situations and things go wrong - its called life.

Its just unfortunate that the same problems happen to the same people ALL
the time!
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 01:32
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Originally Posted by ZOOKER View Post
But how many of the 'disgruntled masses' didn't bother to make their views known on the various internet portals?
How many people went through Manchester, had a good experience but didn't bother to make their views known? Your asking a contextless question, one which has extremes at both ends.

Just like some on here have had a good moan, there have also been those who have had a reasonable to good experience, including 2 awards won. Whether you agree with those awards is irrelevant, as just like we accept some have a naff experience, you need to accept some have a good experience.

One thing with us humans, you are NEVER going to please 100% of the people 100% of the time, ever!
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 07:31
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Look at the number of people that moan day in day out about the their experience at LHR and has that affected the number of passengers in any way?
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 09:47
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One thing with us humans, you are NEVER going to please 100% of the people 100% of the time, ever!
So perhaps you could stop defending MAN 100% of the time?
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 09:55
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Witty, ill take part of your advice and just defend it 99.999% of the time then haha. I'll knock it 0.01% of the time too just so it's in line with trends...
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 09:56
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I can see this thread getting binned and blocked any minute.
Anybody got any actual news?
Here's one...American and United will both be operating 787s out of MAN next summer.
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 10:09
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Have been out of T2 a number of times this year, longest wait at security about 15 minutes. Problem seems to be only half the lanes are open, only returned into T2 on one
occasion came up the bridge and we were opposite passport control, no queue but had to do the full zig zag walk. Returned to T1 in late May again no queue. Returned on a number of times this year into T3 with Ryanair as their schedule on the return is better timed for us.

Returned this Tuesday evening at 11:20pm, no bags to wait for waited out side about two minutes to be picked up and arrived back in Glossop at 12:15am. so no complaints by me.
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 10:09
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo View Post
So perhaps you could stop defending MAN 100% of the time?
Of course he is, that's what airport fan boys do!
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 10:28
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Is UA confirmed yet? It looks like the flight has a time change starting 23rd March, only by 5 minutes but that's usually indicative of a further change due, usually EQV.

In terms of the debate, I agree, it's going nowhere, some people have it good, some bad, it's the same for every airport so it's best just left there.
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 12:13
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The problem with this thread is that we have LAX_LHR as a totally committed supporter MAN who will hear “no ill” said about MAN, although his location is given as London!

He also clearly has daily access to one or more of the global distribution systems. He seems to have inside knowledge of new services, and is always ahead of the game when it comes to reporting these, even before many other feeds have had an opportunity to do so.

He claims to travel through MAN frequently, yet he never experiences the problems that many of us face. He is quick to rubbish negative comments about MAN, and now he fears the thread getting blocked because of honest and usually accurate reporting of the daily problems by many of those who unfortunately have no other than choice to travel through other airports.

My own experience of MAN over the last twelve months, as I have said before, is that it is the one airport that I travel through and that I always wish I could avoid.
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 13:01
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FFHKG.

LAX may be a supporter of Manchester, if you look at other airports on this site you will see they to have supporters of their local airport, nothing wrong with that.

I tend to travel out in the afternoons and return in the evenings suits me and the airport is quieter then. Look at all the departures firtst thing in the morning,that is when the airport is bursting at the seams, when god knows how many people are trying to go through security. When returning to Manchester at busy periods is it Manchesters fault not enough border control staff are on duty? Is it the airports fault baggage can some times take for ages to come through onto the belts?

The airport is going through change at the moment (should have started earlier) but lets wait for the results of these changes which I am sure will improve your airport experience.

LAX was hounded off another 'MAD' site do not lose him on this one, he is a good for advance info and his knowledge of Manchester if you disagree with him thats fine but no need to attack on a personal level.

I have a good idea who he/she works for, and going of past post by him/her I think
that he/she used to work at Manchester, and possibly has relations in Manchester.
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 13:03
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Moan Alert

Attention all moaners !! A sudden outbreak of moaning has just occurred on the Birmingham thread. Security queues, baggage delays, border force queues, poor planning, mismanagement, blah blah....all your favourite pet hates that apparently spoil your day (you know, the ones that apparently only ever happen at MAN) are all being discussed. Major opportunity for a right good moan, enough to keep any would be Victor Meldrew happily occupied for days. Fill your boots folks !!

Warning: those who think their world will end and the sky will fall in at the mere mention of the word "queue" may wish to avert their eyes and exercise extreme caution...
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 13:36
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I think there are many good points being made on here.

There are many who will simply accept mediocrity as being the norm, and sadly, mediocrity is not difficult to find.....Open a newspaper, turn on the radio, or fire up the idiot's lantern and it's there in shedloads.

It's not so much about 'moaning', but more of 'how has it got like this'?

There's a very old adage, taught early on during flying training.......'To fail to plan is to plan to fail'.
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 13:55
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Originally Posted by LAX_LHR View Post
Is UA confirmed yet? It looks like the flight has a time change starting 23rd March, only by 5 minutes but that's usually indicative of a further change due, usually EQV. .
And personally that would be of greater interest than continuing the other debate. (Liked your humour Logohu).

Re UA, I was thinking it was anybody's guess as to whether our EWR service would be pulled, carry on as is, or upgraded to a wide body a/c. A 787 if it did happen would be excellent news.
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 14:13
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Well I'm off to sunny Greece in the morning using Monarch from T2. I'm a regular at T3 but it's over a year since I've been through T2 and many years since flying with ZB.
I'm going with a completely open mind, will make I'm through security with plenty of time to spare and will "go with the flow" - if I can find a decent wifi signal I will let you know my thoughts.
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 14:51
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Originally Posted by FFHKG View Post
The problem with this thread is that we have LAX_LHR as a totally committed supporter MAN who will hear “no ill” said about MAN, although his location is given as London!

He also clearly has daily access to one or more of the global distribution systems. He seems to have inside knowledge of new services, and is always ahead of the game when it comes to reporting these, even before many other feeds have had an opportunity to do so.

He claims to travel through MAN frequently, yet he never experiences the problems that many of us face. He is quick to rubbish negative comments about MAN, and now he fears the thread getting blocked because of honest and usually accurate reporting of the daily problems by many of those who unfortunately have no other than choice to travel through other airports.

My own experience of MAN over the last twelve months, as I have said before, is that it is the one airport that I travel through and that I always wish I could avoid.
So, let me get this straight.

Firstly you state I am a problem on this thread.

Then you state I actually have access to good info.

Then you raise a question over my honesty or true judgement despite transiting the airport, seemingly claiming I am not honest and will hear no ill or rubbish claims. I'm not trying to silence the doubters by calling for an end to the discussion, it's because judging by past threads, there is actually a real danger this thread will be locked. There is no conspiracy.

So, in your post of contradictions, either, I am a trusted source of good info as in paragraph 2, or totally making things up to defend MAN in paragraph 3? Which is it?

However, despite asking that question, maybe I should just say, let it go. Yes, I support MAN, yes I will defend it if I see fit, either get over it or put me on ignore. Your call, I'm not bothered either way.
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 16:58
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I reckon I fly through MAN more than most of the fanboys/moaners on here. Normally depart on a Monday and return on a Thursday.

It certainly helps if you know what you're doing. Get your stuff ready, and make sure you remove everything electrical (all dodgy looking cables etc.). Otherwise, your stuff will end up on the wrong side of the conveyer and you'll be stuck behind 10 people who don't realise a bottle of water is classed as a liquid.

If I leave Urmston at 11:30am, I'm generally in the T3 Escape lounge by about midday.

Similarly, home to T1 lounge is around 30 minutes.

On the return (normally T1), it's sometimes a bit busy, but I've never had to wait more than 30 minutes. Although I originally moaned about the e-gates, they do seem to have speeded things up a lot.

Regular flyers just want to get to the airport, get on their flight and bugger off. Most of us will be happy enough with the MAN experience. The once or twice a year flyers may think a bit differently, but really, who cares about them?

My usual other airport is AMS. I've had some *really* bad experiences there, even with a Privium card.
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 17:58
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LAX LHR is this threads best poster IMO. He is a MAN supporter, but is level headed and fair with his comments at the same time. Not sure why his ability to post info quickly needs special mention, I for one applaud his contribution.
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 18:02
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Has anyone got any information why all arrivals and departures are on 23L. Can't see anything blocking 23R from Signature car park?
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