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Old 25th Oct 2017, 14:23
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I'm based near Stansted. I would rather have Primera than nothing BUT if there was a choice sorry, it would be TCX or VIR on the departure boards everytime.

STN has been a graveyard for start ups with high ambition, let's hope they have deep pockets.
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Old 25th Oct 2017, 19:53
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New Thomas Cook route to Marrakech.

MT1754 MAN 0915 RAK 1450
MT1755 RAK 1550 MAN 1735
Tues

MT1752 MAN 1415 RAK 2000
MT1753 RAK 2100 MAN 2345
Sun

Starts 4th Nov 2018.

3 carriers on MAN-RAK now (TOM/U2/MT), I wonder if this could be a little too much for this route?

Morroco seems to be really on the up from Manchester at the moment. Agadir also has 3 carriers (U2/3O/TOM) and Casablanca will increase to 4 weekly from March.
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Old 25th Oct 2017, 20:47
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Originally Posted by boredintheairport View Post
Hi all,

Idly checking flightradar following a friend's flight and I saw that tonight's FR3217 (Bergamo - Manchester) is being operated by a plane reg EI-DSG which is an Alitalia A320.

Is this a long-term lease? Or a one-off to cover a failure?
Neither

It was an FR24 error. Flight was operated by a normal FR 737
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 11:51
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Given that the TP (too little too late) has now started, is it not a good opportunity for say Ryanair, easyJet & Jet 2 to be in their own part of the new TP? Then services and facilities for that profile of passenger can be provided better?
Likewise the pax of SQ, CX, HU, AA, LH, KLM & AF profiles are slightly different and their facilities can also be tailored (maybe without a KFC and Wetherspoon type pub with some useable seating).
I'm just having a run of using KLM & Flybe's at the moment and it is so embarrassing being in T3. At least the actual handling of Flybe is quiet good but Menzies with KLM ?:-(
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 12:01
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We have that problem in that the land area is too small so rebuild cannot all be done at once, I agree about 5 years late but money was tight after the recession and so were ideas on how it would rebound.
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 12:41
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Extra SAS capacity next summer:

Oslo:

New SK4609/4610 flight on Mondays and Friday's. Some A320 usage too. Makes OSL up to 9 weekly.

Copenhagen:

3rd daily Mon-Thu re-instated using a mix of either Air Nostrum CRJ1000 or SAS A320. The morning flight also increases to a full A321 usage.

Stockholm:

A 2nd daily flight is added on Sat/Sun to make 14 weekly rather than 12. B737/A320 used.

There are the usual reductions in peak summer, but, that's quite a healthy increase from SAS.
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 13:04
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I have news for you.... BA, SQ, EK (et al) Pax also drink in wetherspoons and some are also partial to the occasional KFC. I should know, I’ve travelled quite a lot with some of these airlines.....and not just in economy either.

Conversely, there are some easyJet Pax on certain routes in particular, who wouldn’t be seen dead with their fingers diving in to a bargain bucket.

My point is that these days we can no longer really segregate passenger needs depending on the airline they are flying with. The low cost model is so prolific these days that it is now the norm when flying short haul. The low cost carriers now carry a lot of business passengers and depending on route, some very well heeled travellers too.

The segregation of airlines these days is very much done so in relation to the airlines operational needs. I.e faster turnarounds, 100% self check in etc.

There are some incredibly snobbish views on this site. There is absolutely nothing wrong with wetherspoons or KFC nor the people who use those businesses on the basis that they frequent those establishments. Interestingly, you clump American carriers in those who shouldn’t be anywhere near a fast food joint. Americans frequently bring fast food onboard with them.
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 13:07
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The prices KFC and Burger King charge in the airport, you need a 2nd mortgage anyway so hardly 'lower class' prices for the food!

We ate in Giraffe ex-MAN in Sept and the meal there probably cost no more than what a Burger King meal would have been.
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 13:14
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Originally Posted by LAX_LHR View Post
Extra SAS capacity next summer:

Oslo:

New SK4609/4610 flight on Mondays and Friday's. Some A320 usage too. Makes OSL up to 9 weekly.

Copenhagen:

3rd daily Mon-Thu re-instated using a mix of either Air Nostrum CRJ1000 or SAS A320. The morning flight also increases to a full A321 usage.

Stockholm:

A 2nd daily flight is added on Sat/Sun to make 14 weekly rather than 12. B737/A320 used.

There are the usual reductions in peak summer, but, that's quite a healthy increase from SAS.
Good to see the legacy flag carriers growing alongside the locos. "In diversity we have strength". Aside from the old Eastern-Bloc carriers, who never really got a toe into MAN, the EU flag carriers who have traditionally been at MAN for decades have all survived and even grown since the embracing of locos over the last few years. Room for all at MAN, well kind of!
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 13:17
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Aside from the old Eastern-Bloc carriers, who never really got a toe into MAN

I can remember Tarom and Ukraine International, to name just two, operating for years at MAN. Am I right in thinking Aeroflot were here too back in the days?
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 13:27
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We had Aeroflot and we have had Belavia for a long time now.

In other news, TUI will increase Phuket from bi-weekly to 1 weekly next winter. It looks like Krabi may be a new route as many more Krabi hotels available with the tag line 'flights available to Phuket and Krabi' when Manchester selected. Krabi is bi-weekly this winter from LGW, and a when selecting Thailand holidays from MAN, there seems to be a bi-weekly flight available on Fridays but as yet, nothing seems to be available as you get the 'all gone' message (Krabi is also not available from LGW for next winter yet either).
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 13:33
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Originally Posted by ZOOKER View Post
TURIN,

Loads of news of new airlines starting routes over the years.

SAA, QANTAS, Gulf Air, Cubana, MALEV, LOT, to name a few.

All introduced with big corporate fanfares.

Several years later......They've gone.

Just saying....
Not quite sure what point you are trying to make.

You could equally have said,

Loads of news of new airlines starting routes over the years.

Emirates, Qatar, Etihad, USAIR/AA, SIA, Saudia, Continental/United, Virgin to name a few.

All introduced with big corporate fanfares.

Several years later......Still here.
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 13:37
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Another one to watch for TUI could be Kuala Lumpur.

It's possible to select Malaysia on the holiday home page, with a bi-weekly flight on Thursday highlighted as an option. However, clicking on it will give the 'all gone' screen. We know that no scheduled airline has planned that far in advance yet, so could be interesting.
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 13:48
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Yes, of course we have seen some Eastern Bloc carriers but they never had the traction of the Western equivalents and most withered when FR/EZY/LS opened bases at MAN.

On another note, I am trying to imagine my dinner party conversation going along the lines of 'We're off to Crabby next year"!
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 14:06
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Originally Posted by LAX_LHR View Post
Extra SAS capacity next summer:

Oslo:

New SK4609/4610 flight on Mondays and Friday's. Some A320 usage too. Makes OSL up to 9 weekly.

Copenhagen:

3rd daily Mon-Thu re-instated using a mix of either Air Nostrum CRJ1000 or SAS A320. The morning flight also increases to a full A321 usage.

Stockholm:

A 2nd daily flight is added on Sat/Sun to make 14 weekly rather than 12. B737/A320 used.

There are the usual reductions in peak summer, but, that's quite a healthy increase from SAS.
That's interesting LAX - thank you for posting. Any timings for these?
Particularly for the CPH as it's a place I do frequent.
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 16:04
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Sorry for later reply.

For the extra CPH fligts, it's a 2105 arrival into MAN, 2145 departure.

For the Oslo flights, again it's an afternoon/evening arrival. I've also realised that some weeks the 2nd daily is either a Monday or a Sunday, depending on the week you select.

For ARN, it's afternoon arrivals.
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 18:13
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KL

TUI are indeed starting KL. how else would they fill the cruise ship they are basing there?!?

Will you be able to book flight only though? Doubt it.
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 18:58
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TUI will operate cruise charters to Bangkok, Langkwai, Muscat, Aquba, Cochin and Dubai in Winter 2018, various dates.
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 20:22
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Aside from the irregular flights, Bangkok and Langkwai are regular flights from Dec 18

TOM19 MAN 1630 BKK 1050+1
TOM19 BKK 1250 MAN 1825
B788 Alternate Thursday's

TOM47 MAN 1545 LGK 1135+1
TOM48 LGK 1340 MAN 1905
B788 Alternate Thursday's.
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Old 26th Oct 2017, 21:20
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This is but a token bespoke leisure service (welcome though it is). MAN-BKK is acknowledged to be one of the stand-out un-served city pairs, someone needs to grab this route by the short and curlies soon and make a proper go of it. If the ever-promised TG service continues to be a pipe dream then it would seem to fit with Thomas Cook's growing mainstream long-haul focus, branching out to the East direct from MAN rather than via the Condor hub in Germany.
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