Cardiff-2

[PDXCWL45]

CAA Stats November 2019
81,371 passengers used the airport in November down 4.6% on 2018. The rolling year was 1,663,201 up 5.7% on 2018.
Atms were 1021 down 5.2% on 2018.
1. Amsterdam 13,667
2. Edinburgh 9136
3. Tenerife South 8007
4. Dublin 7935
5. Alicante 7527
6. Doha 6486
7. Paris CDG 3994
8. Malaga 3620
9. Belfast City 3503
10. Arrecife 2984

[bycrewlgw]

Originally Posted by PDXCWL45

CAA Stats November 2019
81,371 passengers used the airport in November down 4.6% on 2018. The rolling year was 1,663,201 up 5.7% on 2018.
Atms were 1021 down 5.2% on 2018.
1. Amsterdam 13,667
2. Edinburgh 9136
3. Tenerife South 8007
4. Dublin 7935
5. Alicante 7527
6. Doha 6486
7. Paris CDG 3994
8. Malaga 3620
9. Belfast City 3503
10. Arrecife 2984

just goes to show what a hit it’s going to be with the BE loss. Next year will be interesting with the TCX loss too...

Healthy 24% increase on the DOH flights 👍🏻

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by bycrewlgw

just goes to show what a hit it’s going to be with the BE loss. Next year will be interesting with the TCX loss too...

Healthy 24% increase on the DOH flights 👍🏻

Wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. Doha and Edinburgh seem to have compensated a bit for it.

[PDXCWL45]

TUI have cut the Thursday Gran Canaria reducing this route back to 1 weekly for Cardiff Airport.
They have replaced it with Antalya which will now be on a based aircraft.
As a result TUI will operate 46 instead of 47 weekly departures. 3 on non based aircraft.
This is for summer 2020.

[Letsflycwl]

I’m guessing there will be a 3rd party airline on one of the PMI routes too as the TUI search states “Other Carrier”

So is it just AYT & PMI that are going to be operated by another airline or anything else ?

Im guessing that Freebird may/will operate AYT but who would do PMI ? We’ve previously had Eurowings and AlbaStar.

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by Letsflycwl

I’m guessing there will be a 3rd party airline on one of the PMI routes too as the TUI search states “Other Carrier”

So is it just AYT & PMI that are going to be operated by another airline or anything else ?

Im guessing that Freebird may/will operate AYT but who would do PMI ? We’ve previously had Eurowings and AlbaStar.

Dalaman on Sundays is down as other carrier as well.

[Letsflycwl]

So I’m betting the Turkish flights may be with Freebird then.....that just leaves the PMI

Not that long to go so I’d have hoped they be confirming this soon

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by Letsflycwl

So I’m betting the Turkish flights may be with Freebird then.....that just leaves the PMI

Not that long to go so I’d have hoped they be confirming this soon

The non based PMI will be interesting! Last time it was Eurowings before that Albastar. Lauda also have a base there now so whether they would operate charters?
Personally I'd have hoped that TUI would use Vueling more so they increased their frequency and TUI could use their aircraft to increase frequency on other routes which need it like Faro.

[Letsflycwl]

I thought that Lauda / Ryanair would have operated a PMI route for Summer 2020, maybe 2021 who knows but not too sure who TUI will use this year especially as it’s only 4 or so months away.......and not many carriers left out there really either.

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by Letsflycwl

I thought that Lauda / Ryanair would have operated a PMI route for Summer 2020, maybe 2021 who knows but not too sure who TUI will use this year especially as it’s only 4 or so months away.......and not many carriers left out there really either.

There was a credible Twitter rumour about Lauda launching PMI for Summer 2020 but it doesn't seem to have happened. Hopefully it'll happen in 2021 though I'd much prefer a Ryanair base or Jet2 base being launched in 2021!

[Letsflycwl]

With the sad loss of Thomas Cool a new base by either Ryanair or Jet2 should be the focus of CWL now, EZY would be a big no no because of BRS (still baffles me though why they don’t do a “W” pattern on 1 or 2 routes a week.

Whoever CWL chase would have the rule of the roost really at CWL with only TUI to compete against......

Fingers crossed all round for something positive

[shamrock7seal]

I wonder if a Jet2 Summer 2021 base would be feasible?

[Letsflycwl]

Originally Posted by shamrock7seal

I wonder if a Jet2 Summer 2021 base would be feasible?

I’m sure CWL management could offer them some sort of deal they could not say no too, but then other than the success in securing QR things seem to have gone super quiet.

Jet2 would be a great fit for both CWL and also the airline with a small base for starters and will provide Jet2 with full UK cover but then there are the other airports in the area, BRS, EXT & BOH which I guess would also love a Jet2 presence.

It will all be what deal they can get and whether or not they actually want to expand into the South West region.

[PDXCWL45]

I don't see why a Jet2 base wouldn't be feasible whether they would launch one in 2021 only they would know. Out of the 2 airlines of Ryanair and Jet2, Jet2 probably would be the better fit because like Cardiff itself they are a very seasonal airline whereas although Ryanair would provide more of a balanced airport they would potentially want to get more use out of any based aircraft in the winter.

[yeo valley]

A small base of say 2 aircraft on paper should work with plenty of adverts on radio and tv,plus on bill boards around Cardiff city and beyond. Now to advertise don't come gheap in any sort of form. Weater jet 2 wold set a base of 2 aircraft up and the cost of advertisments around I would say cost would be too much.But who knows the airlines work in weird ways these days.

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by yeo valley

A small base of say 2 aircraft on paper should work with plenty of adverts on radio and tv,plus on bill boards around Cardiff city and beyond. Now to advertise don't come gheap in any sort of form. Weater jet 2 wold set a base of 2 aircraft up and the cost of advertisments around I would say cost would be too much.But who knows the airlines work in weird ways these days.

With advertising I'd imagine that the airport would bear some of the cost of that and they already have very good awareness in the area already.

[Letsflycwl]

Originally Posted by yeo valley

A small base of say 2 aircraft on paper should work with plenty of adverts on radio and tv,plus on bill boards around Cardiff city and beyond. Now to advertise don't come gheap in any sort of form. Weater jet 2 wold set a base of 2 aircraft up and the cost of advertisments around I would say cost would be too much.But who knows the airlines work in weird ways these days.

Prior to the arrival of Qatar Airways the advertising of airlines at CWL around the area has been pretty poor....BMI baby did the weather reports and that’s all I can really remember. Air Southwest has some flimsy banners at Cardiff Central Station and I also remember FlyGlobespan advertising on some taxis.

If and I’m saying if Jet2 were to come to CWL advertising and marketing would need to be full on but a 2 aircraft base would do rather well. Ski & City breaks to PRG, KRK & SZG then the usual bucket and spade destinations in the summer.....Just my opinion but it certainly needs to be advertised.

[MerchantVenturer]

With the loss of Thomas Cook CWL is in need of a boost to its passenger numbers. Its owners the Welsh Government have said more than once that, as with other smaller airports, its fixed costs are disproportionately high compared with busier airports, and greater footfall is required to feed the ancillary revenue streams.

Either Jet2 or a substantially expanded Ryanair presence would be a good capture and provide the much-needed significant increase in passenger throughput. In the earlier years of this century CWL was handling tens of thousands more passengers per year on a number of routes than is currently the case so there is a strong argument to say that these routes are under-served or, in some cases, non-existent at present.

The latest CWL financial results show how urgent the need is in terms of the airport's profitability. Pre-tax losses have nearly trebled to £18.5 million compared with the previous year, although about half the loss is a write-down on the value of intangible assets such as intellectual property and brand recognition. The airport said that global economic factors including climate change, uncertainty over Brexit and rising fuel prices had impacted on the aviation sector.

Positive aspects included turnover increasing by £3 million to nearly £21 million, the airport contributing £250 million to the Welsh economy each year as well as sustaining 2,400 airport-related jobs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-50955180

[PDXCWL45]

KLM have upgraded the 17.15 evening departure to an E190 Monday to Friday except in July and August. So that means on Tuesdays and Fridays all 3 departures will be E190s.
That means 12 of the weekly departures will be on the E190.

[Letsflycwl]

Originally Posted by PDXCWL45

KLM have upgraded the 17.15 evening departure to an E190 Monday to Friday except in July and August. So that means on Tuesdays and Fridays all 3 departures will be E190s.
That means 12 of the weekly departures will be on the E190.

Good news there from KLM, great to see a continued increase in the size of the aircraft. Next step will be having the B737 back maybe.