Cardiff-2

[Atlantic Explorer]

Originally Posted by SWBKCB

Will the J41's be around for 4 years?

More chance of the J41s being around than Eastern if the latest accounts are anything to go by!

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by SWBKCB

Will the J41's be around for 4 years?

Looks like the youngest J41 is 22 years old but most are around 25 years old.

[SWBKCB]

But given the size of the world-wide fleet, aren't there issues with spares and on-going support?

What does the PSO contract say about the size of the a/c to be used. Hasn't this been an issue previously?

[Jersey32D]

Originally Posted by SWBKCB

But given the size of the world-wide fleet, aren't there issues with spares and on-going support?

What does the PSO contract say about the size of the a/c to be used. Hasn't this been an issue previously?

I believe the aircraft used in this route, G-MAJG has been reconfigured to just 19 seats.

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by Jersey32D

I believe the aircraft used in this route, G-MAJG has been reconfigured to just 19 seats.

That aircraft is no longer in use now. On my flight in October it was a 29 seat configuration.

[BAladdy]

Originally Posted by crackling jet

Is that the route where you obtain an a/c, park it at Cardiff day and night and the revenue just rolls in ?, Sweet

Eastern made some changes to there operations at CWL a couple of months ago, which means that the aircraft that operates the PSO contract only spends a couple of hours on the ground during the day. The aircraft is also no longer parked up at CWL over the weekend. It now operates:

Monday to Thursday -
CWL-VLY-CWL-NCL-CWL-VLY-CWL

Friday
CWL-VLY-CWL-NCL-CWL-VLY-CWL-NCL

Sunday
NCL-CWL

[cymru]

Flybe summer schedule

New press release on the Cardiff Airport website. Not sure if we have gained or lost destinations. Interesting that they have chosen to plug the Dublin link for US connections again. It is clearly working for the KLM route so this would at least get international passengers starting their journeys from Cardiff which will help break the habit of going to Heathrow etc. Then they are more likely to look at Cardiff first. I recently used the KLM link to fly to Bogotá and much prefer that than the trek to Heathrow.*

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by cymru

New press release on the Cardiff Airport website. Not sure if we have gained or lost destinations. Interesting that they have chosen to plug the Dublin link for US connections again. It is clearly working for the KLM route so this would at least get international passengers starting their journeys from Cardiff which will help break the habit of going to Heathrow etc. Then they are more likely to look at Cardiff first. I recently used the KLM link to fly to Bogotá and much prefer that than the trek to Heathrow.*

Flybe destinations lost are Berlin and Dusseldorf.
This is what the Summer 2019 looks like for Flybe.

Just thought i'd do a summary of what Flybe will be offering for Summer 2019.
Belfast City 11 weekly departures no change
Cork 2 weekly departures no change
Dublin 15 weekly departures +1
Edinburgh 17 weekly departures +4
Faro 4 weekly departures -1
Glasgow 5 weekly departures no change
Jersey 3 weekly departures -1
Milan MXP 2 weekly departures until 28th September -1
Munich 2 weekly departures until 6th September -1
Paris CDG 11 weekly departures +1
Rome FCO 2 weekly departures until 7th September no change
Venice 2 weekly departures until 7th September no change
Verona 2 weekly departures until 7th September no change
76 weekly flights. Goes down to 70 after the 7/9/19 and 68 after 28/9/19

[PDXCWL45]

As the CAA have been slow releasing the total figures for 2018 i decided not too wait and add up Amsterdams figures for myself.

In 2017 KLM carried 134,095 passengers in and out of Cardiff in 2018 this has gone up to 146,328. An extra 12,233 passengers have used the route in 2018 which is essentially an extra months worth of passengers and is growth of 9.1%.
November was the busiest month (13,472) with 9 months of the year over the 12,000 passenger mark.
Hopefully this growth will continue and will lead to larger aircraft in the long term.
It's also noticeable that fears that Qatar would just take KLMs passengers and that they would be forced out seem to be unfounded.

[bycrewlgw]

Jan 2019 Stats

FRANCE:
Chambery 608 +9%
Paris CDG 4,110 +3%

GERMANY:
Berlin TXL 276 -76%
Munich 488 -58%

IRELAND:
Cork 1,008 +28%
Dublin 6,088 -12%

ITALY:
Milan MXP 294 -74%
Rome FCO 473 -65%

NETHERLANDS:
Amsterdam 11,609 +8%

PORTUGAL:
Faro 312 +8%

SPAIN:
Alicante 6,358 -2%
Malaga 3,765 +4%
Lanzarote 3,282 +12%
Gran Canaria 1,418 -4%
Tenerife TFS 7,379 +16%

SWITZERLAND:
Geneva 956 +23%

QATAR:
Doha 6,614 NEW ROUTE

BARBADOS:
Barbados 596 -33%

JAMAICA:
Montego Bay 596 -33%

Mixed month with a lot of established routes down by big margins.

[cymru]

Was it an overall increase or decrease on Jan last year?

[bycrewlgw]

Originally Posted by cymru

Was it an overall increase or decrease on Jan last year?

still an increase of 7.7% the qatar figures would have helped that. Massive drops on some BE routes to Germany and Italy though.

[fanrailuk]

Can you confirm the DOH figures are indeed correct?

22 rotations in January would give 5,588 seats available for sale (at 5 weekly)

Sad to see such drops on those "nicer" routes to Germany and Italy; reason I guess they're being culled end of S19.

On the other hand it's nice to see those ski routes getting a nice little increase on last year.

[cymru]

I think some of the problem with those European cities is the schedule. Munich and Milan are good for business and tourism. But there aren’t many options for weekends away where you can fly out on a Friday and come back on a Sunday or Monday. This is largely down to the number of aircraft but ideally you would have two or three flights to the cities that allowed a bit more scope for a weekend city break. At the moment you can only really do that Dublin, Belfast, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Paris and Amsterdam.

[bycrewlgw]

Originally Posted by fanrailuk

Can you confirm the DOH figures are indeed correct?

22 rotations in January would give 5,588 seats available for sale (at 5 weekly)

Sad to see such drops on those "nicer" routes to Germany and Italy; reason I guess they're being culled end of S19.

On the other hand it's nice to see those ski routes getting a nice little increase on last year.

just quoting what’s on the CAA page. Showing 6614 for the month.

22 rotations would give 11,176 seats for the month 254 inbound 254 outbound. So effectively 508 seats each day it operates.

[PDXCWL45]

CAA stats for January 2019
73,100 passengers used the airport up 4% on 2018. The rolling year was 1,582,089 up 7.7% on 2018.
Atms were 958 down 11% from 2018.
Top 10 routes for January 2019
1. Amsterdam 11,609
2. Tenerife South 7379
3. Doha 6614
4. Alicante 6358
5. Dublin 6088
6. Edinburgh 6017
7. Belfast City 5178
8. Paris CDG 4110
9. Malaga 3765
10. Arrecife 3282

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by fanrailuk

Can you confirm the DOH figures are indeed correct?

22 rotations in January would give 5,588 seats available for sale (at 5 weekly)

Sad to see such drops on those "nicer" routes to Germany and Italy; reason I guess they're being culled end of S19.

On the other hand it's nice to see those ski routes getting a nice little increase on last year.

Flybe suspended them for most of January hence the drop in numbers, Whether they will return for next year is unknown but the airport has said the routes are viable and used by a lot of tour operators, especially Italy.

[PDXCWL45]

CAA Stats for 2018
1,579,286 passengers used the airport in 2018 up 7.9% on 2017.
Top 12 routes for 2018
1. Amsterdam 146,058
2. Palma de Mallorca 108,313
3. Dublin 108,275
4. Alicante 104,211
5. Edinburgh 102,102
6. Tenerife South 88,771
7. Malaga 88,740
8. Paris CDG 77,676
9. Belfast City 70,784
10. Faro 64,076
11. Doha 55,568
12. Arrecife 46,465

[PDXCWL45]

It looks like Ryanair will make Malta all year round. Flights not onsale yet but loaded up onto the website. Tenerife will return at 2 weekly as well.

[fanrailuk]

Assembly Debate

Interesting discussion between the Chiefs of CWL, BRS and MAN on the devolution of APD to Wales.

Its a little long but worth a listen...

https://parliamentlive.tv/event/inde...2-a9aa674041e5

I do wonder if BHX were invited along too?