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Does it matter? Surely you don't lay awake at night worrying about it? Anything that happens at parliament level is way, way out of your or my control so what's the point in concerning yourself with it? All governments spend my cash on more nonsensical projects than subsidising routes so if they didn't spend it on trying to help an economy they'll spend it on some dead head who can't be arsed to get a job.
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That's hardly a paltry sum, and be assured that it was probably a deal maker / breaker. But that's neither here nor there, if QR are giving the route 2 years to start turning a profit then that's fine. It does however stick in the throat that as the UK isn't properly federalised, what the Welsh and Scottish governments can do, no region of England can and that isn't a level playing fields in anyone's book.
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Privately-owned airports undoubtedly do spend money on marketing and route support but that is a commercial decision, will impact on the airport company's profit/loss and will be shown in the company's balance sheet.
That's the situation the UK government has provided - a quasi federal system with significant autonomy for three of the four constituent countries - and if the WG takes advantage of this who can blame them?
The Welsh Government's wholly owned airport company did not provide the one million pounds marketing support. It came directly from the Welsh Government and will not appear in their airport company's balance sheet.
Privately-owned airports undoubtedly do spend money on marketing and route support but that is a commercial decision, will impact on the airport company's profit/loss and will be shown in the company's balance sheet.
That's the situation the UK government has provided - a quasi federal system with significant autonomy for three of the four constituent countries - and if the WG takes advantage of this who can blame them?
Privately-owned airports undoubtedly do spend money on marketing and route support but that is a commercial decision, will impact on the airport company's profit/loss and will be shown in the company's balance sheet.
That's the situation the UK government has provided - a quasi federal system with significant autonomy for three of the four constituent countries - and if the WG takes advantage of this who can blame them?
That's a political point, and this forum isn't there to discuss politics.
That is exactly correct - in a Federal System local politicians take the decisions and reap the consequences - the one size fits all model no longer applies.
See the USA for how it works................... bit of a shock to English sensibilities I grant you...............
See the USA for how it works................... bit of a shock to English sensibilities I grant you...............
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ATNots and northern Spannish region - English regional electorates were given the opportunity to have regional assemblies . The first referendum held in the North East (pretty much the same electorate that turned over fourty years of cooperation with our European neighbours and resultant economic successes) shat on expanding democracatic accountability and control of local budgets by rejecting the offer of an assembly.
All other porposals other than city mayors have ended up in the bin !
England in particular doesn’t seem ready for MORE and closer democratic accountability and responsibilities any time soon .
A shame, though the right wing media would say it would be more public money wasted on beaurocrats I am sure.
So blame lack of regional UK accountability where it’s due and it’s not Westminster in reality.
All other porposals other than city mayors have ended up in the bin !
England in particular doesn’t seem ready for MORE and closer democratic accountability and responsibilities any time soon .
A shame, though the right wing media would say it would be more public money wasted on beaurocrats I am sure.
So blame lack of regional UK accountability where it’s due and it’s not Westminster in reality.
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ATNots and northern Spannish region - English regional electorates were given the opportunity to have regional assemblies . The first referendum held in the North East (pretty much the same electorate that turned over fourty years of cooperation with our European neighbours and resultant economic successes) shat on expanding democracatic accountability and control of local budgets by rejecting the offer of an assembly.
All other porposals other than city mayors have ended up in the bin !
England in particular doesn’t seem ready for MORE and closer democratic accountability and responsibilities any time soon .
A shame, though the right wing media would say it would be more public money wasted on beaurocrats I am sure.
So blame lack of regional UK accountability where it’s due and it’s not Westminster in reality.
All other porposals other than city mayors have ended up in the bin !
England in particular doesn’t seem ready for MORE and closer democratic accountability and responsibilities any time soon .
A shame, though the right wing media would say it would be more public money wasted on beaurocrats I am sure.
So blame lack of regional UK accountability where it’s due and it’s not Westminster in reality.
We are in many ways a rather immature democracy.
English regional electorates were given the opportunity to have regional assemblies . The first referendum held in the North East shat on expanding democracatic accountability and control of local budgets by rejecting the offer of an assembly.
Even the powers of the devolved administrations/National Governments is inconsistent, to put it mildly.
Anyway, back to CWL. I think the objection in this case is that the access to government funding which isn't available elsewhere.
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Why are Flybe's flights being diverted to St Athan instead of Cardiff?
Five flights were diverted today and five flights were diverted yesterday.
All of the other flights arrived as normal.
Why?
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Five flights were diverted today and five flights were diverted yesterday.
All of the other flights arrived as normal.
Why?
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That can be explained due to the Limitations of MLAT and FR24 Calculations. They did get to CWL.
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For some reason, i think it's the transponder they use, with Flybe Fr24 loses track of them below 3000 feet i believe and then says they've landed at the nearest airport which when I think it's runway 12 in operation at Cardiff is St Athan and sometimes it'll even say Swansea but the flights have landed at Cardiff.
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Ryanair argues for devolving air tax to Wales and hints at new flights for Cardiff.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/ryanair-argues-devolving-air-tax-15647986?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=socia&lutm_campa ign=wales_main
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/ryanair-argues-devolving-air-tax-15647986?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=socia&lutm_campa ign=wales_main
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going to be a case of wait and see. Only those involved will know where they want to take the business. Bottom line is how profitable the routes are and whether they fit in with the new business strategy. They must have some sort of plan though. They could easily have set up their own from Manchester and few routes from lhr if they had only wanted a regional connecting airline so regional flying may link in with their strategy especially with KL/AF too.