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Old 30th Jan 2019, 18:38
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl View Post
Shame about Iberia Express as it was reported the loads were pretty good to MAD.
Depends on the person doing the reporting as the CAA show mixed loads.

June 2018...Ö..1075 paxÖ..108 per flight...Ö..60%
July 2018...ÖÖ2340 paxÖ..130 per flight-------72%
Aug 2018...Ö...2655 paxÖ...148 per flight...Ö.82%
Sep 2018...Ö...1049 paxÖ...105 per flight...Ö.58%

Even if making money they probably think more can be made elsewhere in June July and September.

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Old 11th Feb 2019, 08:54
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Members of the Welsh Affairs committee will visit Cardiff Airport to hear the case for devolving Air Passenger Duty.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-wales-47176479
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 16:37
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And about time too !!! Wales should have the same powers as Scotland & Northern Ireland here.
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 16:43
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl View Post
And about time too !!! Wales should have the same powers as Scotland & Northern Ireland here.
But so should the English regions. A level playing field for all please.

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Old 11th Feb 2019, 17:57
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Having the powers means nothing... #SNP 🙄
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 19:03
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The Welsh political situation is different as the majority of the Sennedd support devolution of APD. The main opposition seems to come from welsh MPs in Westminster who seem more concerned about England than any benefits for Wales. If the committee does propose it being devolved there is no guarentee that the UK government actually will devolve it.
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 20:56
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The Welsh political situation is different as the majority of the Sennedd support devolution of APD.
How would any reduction in APD be funded?
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 21:05
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 View Post
The Welsh political situation is different as the majority of the Sennedd support devolution of APD. The main opposition seems to come from welsh MPs in Westminster who seem more concerned about England than any benefits for Wales. If the committee does propose it being devolved there is no guarentee that the UK government actually will devolve it.
As far as Iím aware it still has to be paid to the coffers so the welsh assembly would have to fund it. Not sure where the money is going to come from. It needs to be scraped uk wide or an alternative found. Itís certainly not being used for what it was designed for Iím sure.

i wonder how many airlines would actually reduce pricing or keep it the same to boost their profits?
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 04:46
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As far as Iím aware it still has to be paid to the coffers so the welsh assembly would have to fund it. Not sure where the money is going to come from. It needs to be scraped uk wide or an alternative found. Itís certainly not being used for what it was designed for Iím sure.

i wonder how many airlines would actually reduce pricing or keep it the same to boost their profits?
From what I've read APD from Wales is a small amount especially when compared to the whole Welsh budget so essentially it's just an investment into the area and country as a whole.
As for the airlines I doubt they would drop prices but it would make routes more sustainable and give Cardiff a better chance of attracting more marginal routes especially when up against other airports in countries without this sort of tax.
There are better ways to tax the aviation industry than APD especially if it's purpose is supposed to be environmental.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 06:03
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Bit of a scattergun approach if it's about sustainability and attracting marginal routes.

Mind you, cheaper holidays for those in the CWL catchment area should appeal to those voters. Wonder what the rest of Wales will think?
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 07:17
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
Bit of a scattergun approach if it's about sustainability and attracting marginal routes.

Mind you, cheaper holidays for those in the CWL catchment area should appeal to those voters. Wonder what the rest of Wales will think?
For the Welsh government it's not about cheaper holidays as CWL is having no problem regrowing that side. It's about being able to attract routes that'll bring in more inbound tourism amid fierce competition from other airports around Europe and equality with Scotland and Northern Ireland in the devolution settlement.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 07:37
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There are better ways to tax the aviation industry than APD especially if it's purpose is supposed to be environmental.
Better, on the face of it, to charge airlines the tax, based upon the capacity and efficiency of the aircraft operated. And, importantly ensure that executive aircraft are included in the scope of the tax. Also pure freight flights. I can see a downside, that airlines might be less inclined to take risks on launching new, possibly marginal service from the regions, but environmentally it's a winner.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 08:02
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
Better, on the face of it, to charge airlines the tax, based upon the capacity and efficiency of the aircraft operated. And, importantly ensure that executive aircraft are included in the scope of the tax. Also pure freight flights. I can see a downside, that airlines might be less inclined to take risks on launching new, possibly marginal service from the regions, but environmentally it's a winner.
Or a jet fuel tax?
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 09:25
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I may be wrong but isnít there an ICAO rule that you canít tax aviation or something? It maybe that you canít add VAT or tax jet fuel. Iím sure I read thatís why itís called a duty rather than tax.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 09:44
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I believe so. Essentially international traffic, by air or sea, is subsidised because almost all countries tax fuel used within their borders.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 08:43
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Eastern Airways have been awarded the Anglesey service for the next 4 years.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 13:54
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Is that the route where you obtain an a/c, park it at Cardiff day and night and the revenue just rolls in ?, Sweet
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 14:08
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Is that the route where you obtain an a/c, park it at Cardiff day and night and the revenue just rolls in ?, Sweet
No it's the route that provides vital connections between the north of Wales and the capital for ordinary people and businesses. Bit like the highland and islands routes in Scotland.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 14:36
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Will the J41's be around for 4 years?
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 06:55
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Will the J41's be around for 4 years?
If not then I'd imagine that they would have to use another aircraft.
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