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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 11:59
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Hasn't the funding been discussed to death over the last 3 years? It isn't anything new.
Flybe have 4 x 175 deliveries this year into next year. CWL is performing very well and when the 195s go it'll be performing even better, the fact that the funding is helping massively is largely irrelevant, the time when it will matter is when the deal comes to an end in 7 years time, only then we'll see the strategy of both parties.
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 13:54
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Originally Posted by Reversethrustset View Post
Flybe have 4 x 175 deliveries this year into next year. CWL is performing very well and when the 195s go it'll be performing even better, the fact that the funding is helping massively is largely irrelevant, the time when it will matter is when the deal comes to an end in 7 years time, only then we'll see the strategy of both parties.
In point of fact, although FlyBe have orders for 4 additional E175s, only one, according to Jethros, is for delivery in 2019. The other 3 have no fixed delivery dates as yet, and have probably been deferred.

It has also been stated publicly that the current management at FlyBe is reducing it's fleet, and that can only impact less well performing routes. Whether any of these prove to effect Cardiff only time will tell. How anyone outside FlyBe can state categorically that the Cardiff base is doing well, or badly, is beyond me. Anyone with insider knowledge shouldn't be posting it here. Bums on seats aren't a measure of how well routes are doing, it's the revenue that is crucial. I wish CWL no ill will whatsoever, but sometimes allowing the head to over rule the heart is a good policy.
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 19:07
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
In point of fact, although FlyBe have orders for 4 additional E175s, only one, according to Jethros, is for delivery in 2019. The other 3 have no fixed delivery dates as yet, and have probably been deferred.

It has also been stated publicly that the current management at FlyBe is reducing it's fleet, and that can only impact less well performing routes. Whether any of these prove to effect Cardiff only time will tell. How anyone outside FlyBe can state categorically that the Cardiff base is doing well, or badly, is beyond me. Anyone with insider knowledge shouldn't be posting it here. Bums on seats aren't a measure of how well routes are doing, it's the revenue that is crucial. I wish CWL no ill will whatsoever, but sometimes allowing the head to over rule the heart is a good policy.
Can only look at the evidence on hand and that suggests the Flybe operation is growing and doing well. Only Flybe and the airport will have the finer details and they aren't going to release it to the likes of me!
As for the future only Flybe and the airport know IF they'll continue to add extra aircraft as was mentioned in a press article earlier in the year and what extra frequencies they'll add and what new routes if any they'll add or are looking to add. If i'm correct it'll be around September time that we'll find out if they are going to add a 4th aircraft and if they'll keep expanding.
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 03:46
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I wouldn't take what's posted on Jethro's as gospel for what happens in reality, after all, it's a 1 man band upgrading his website based on what information he gets. It's very good but there's nothing official about it so when you say they've probably been deferred, well that just proves the point I've just made, Jethro's doesn't know everything. It's almost as bad as going to Wikipedia for hard facts.
For the record, if you're referring to me personally (which you must be because you quoted me) how do you know I'm outside Flybe? Well I'm not, I've worked at Flybe for a long time and no insider or confidential information has ever been posted by myself. Stating CWL is performing well does not constitute posting sensitive information. If I told you the inner workings of the business then I'd agree with you, but to just say "it's performing well" doesn't matter one jot to anyone. Let's just say I know what I'm talking about regarding it performing well, how do I know this? I have been told by someone higher up, and the ONLY thing I was told is exactly that, it's performing well, those exact words, nothing more, nothing less. Also do you honestly believe I think the measure of performance is about bums on seats and not revenue, seriously? That's like telling a 50 year old how to cross a road.
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 06:53
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Guess we will find out rougly how they doing when funding runs out.
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 07:08
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Guess we will find out rougly how they doing when funding runs out.
Why does everyone assume there is a continuous subsidy? It could just be a lump sum at the beginning of the deal.
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 09:22
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Well the deal has 7 years to run, so sit back a while. Remember too that the deal was for 2 aircraft, well it now has 3 and there's rumours of a 4th, so yes, it must be all about the funding why it's doing well. I'm pretty sure there's some sad and pathetic people on here that actually wants it to fail.
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 09:35
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No-one really knows the deal but the general perception is the WG are leasing 2 aircraft and have decided on the routes those aircraft will operate with a view of connecting South Wales to various cities with some extra capacity on 'sun' routes. Anything above that I would expect BE are operating on their own back with their own financial involvement. Given that it's grown to 3 and maybe soon 4 aircraft would give confidence that the routes BE are operating on their own merit have commercial viability and can work well in conjuntion with the other 'city' routes that may well be taking longer to mature. Yes the big question is what happens with those routes at the end of the deal, which is several years away.
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 10:35
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No-one really knows the deal but the general perception is the WG are leasing 2 aircraft and have decided on the routes those aircraft will operate with a view of connecting South Wales to various cities with some extra capacity on 'sun' routes
Really? Would love to see the "state aid" justification for that approach.
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 11:05
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Given that it's been running for 3 years it doesn't seem to have been an issue so far...
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 08:15
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Icelandair from Akureyri is due in at 13.15 and it looks like its going to be a 757 200. It's then due to depart to Keflavik at 14.15
Nice to see something different at the airport !
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 13:20
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 View Post
Icelandair from Akureyri is due in at 13.15 and it looks like its going to be a 757 200. It's then due to depart to Keflavik at 14.15
Nice to see something different at the airport !
Atlantic Airways were in yesterday on a charter from Vagar with an A320.
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 13:24
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Originally Posted by Jersey32D View Post
Atlantic Airways were in yesterday on a charter from Vagar with an A320.
They are back again on the 29th as well.
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Old 30th Apr 2018, 23:42
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First Qatar Airways flight to Cardiff

The first Qatar Airways flight from Doha to Cardiff (QR323) on Tuesday 1st May is scheduled to be on A7-ALU, A350-941XWB.
This particular aircraft is brand new, being delivered to Qatar only a week ago on the 24th April 2018. Since then it has been to Malé twice, Amman, Kuwait, Geneva and Zurich.
It is configured with 36 Business Class and 247 Economy seats. The B787-8 aircraft which will be used on the route going forward will have 22 Business Class and 232 Economy seats.
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Old 1st May 2018, 06:51
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Wonder what the loads will be like ?
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Old 1st May 2018, 07:05
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Wonder what the loads will be like ?
Whatever they are going forward one thing you can be sure of is that today's loads won't be a true indicator - probably hoards of politicians, dignitaries and journalists among the fare paying public.
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Old 1st May 2018, 07:16
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Whatever they are going forward one thing you can be sure of is that today's loads won't be a true indicator - probably hoards of politicians, dignitaries and journalists among the fare paying public.
Carwyn Jones, Alun Cairns and Roger Lewis are all on the inaugural flight. No doubt there'll be some Qatari dignitaries as well.
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Old 1st May 2018, 07:43
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 View Post
Carwyn Jones, Alun Cairns and Roger Lewis are all on the inaugural flight. No doubt there'll be some Qatari dignitaries as well.
Plus "hangers on" from the tourist boards, travel industry, freight industry, key potential manufacturing cargo clients - wouldn't be surprised to see Simon Calder if he can find his way beyond the M25!
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Old 1st May 2018, 07:53
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Plus "hangers on" from the tourist boards, travel industry, freight industry, key potential manufacturing cargo clients - wouldn't be surprised to see Simon Calder if he can find his way beyond the M25!
If Calder turns up then Cardiff knows it's hit the big time! LOL
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Old 1st May 2018, 08:11
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If Calder turns up then Cardiff knows it's hit the big time! LOL
i hope not, he can stay there lol
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