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Second only to MAN, by 1 flight. Very good to see October half term flights still running, as well as New Years Eve making a return.
29/10 - 02/11, 757
01/11 - 06/11, 757
12/11 - 16/11, 757
26/11 - 30/11, 757
06/12 - 10/12, 757
10/12 - 14/12, 757
14/12 - 18/12, 757
29/12 - 03/01, 757
Also worth noting the following are also on sale, which appear to be scheduled on 737 800's as well
Berlin - 07/12
Copenhagen - 30/11
Munich - 30/11
Vienna - 23/11 + 07/11 (doubled up from 2017)
Promising to see LS making a success out of these charters
29/10 - 02/11, 757
01/11 - 06/11, 757
12/11 - 16/11, 757
26/11 - 30/11, 757
06/12 - 10/12, 757
10/12 - 14/12, 757
14/12 - 18/12, 757
29/12 - 03/01, 757
Also worth noting the following are also on sale, which appear to be scheduled on 737 800's as well
Berlin - 07/12
Copenhagen - 30/11
Munich - 30/11
Vienna - 23/11 + 07/11 (doubled up from 2017)
Promising to see LS making a success out of these charters
Join Date: Oct 2017
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I don't think they've lost interest, more a case of focusing more attention and resources on their newest bases. Was bad enough when they dropped the B752 to B738 (46 seats per sector lost there)
Its a shame NCL has been generally neglected in favour of others. hopefully 2019/2020 will be the year(s) they get their long overdue increase
Its a shame NCL has been generally neglected in favour of others. hopefully 2019/2020 will be the year(s) they get their long overdue increase
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I believe it is also the fault of the airlines, in part, for directing resources elsewhere. When it comes to NCL they all seem to jump on the same bucket and spade routes, which really does little good for anyone.
Ryanair appear to be having positive results by going against the grain and offering Warsaw, Gdansk, Wroclaw and Madrid. EasyJet appear to be doing well to Berlin, Jet2's charters do well, but (except Ryanair, of late) they're all very slow to commit long term. i.e I'm sure NCL-VIE could e a success with Jet2. Budapest, Munich, Milan, Venice, Hamburg, Lisbon, Athens with EZY/FR/EW/W6
Ryanair appear to be having positive results by going against the grain and offering Warsaw, Gdansk, Wroclaw and Madrid. EasyJet appear to be doing well to Berlin, Jet2's charters do well, but (except Ryanair, of late) they're all very slow to commit long term. i.e I'm sure NCL-VIE could e a success with Jet2. Budapest, Munich, Milan, Venice, Hamburg, Lisbon, Athens with EZY/FR/EW/W6
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Small catchment area, half of which is in the sea and another third of which is inhabited by sheep.
A relatively 'poor' (by the UK's perverted definition of that word) human population.
It would be very nice indeed to have new routes every week, and we should be grateful when we do get them, but we really should stop whingeing when we don't. Compare NCL's international services to those at Brest or Rostock. We are very lucky indeed.
*edited to add that we have virtually no inbound tourism either, despite the Newcastlegateshead Initiative's self-justifying claims to the contrary*
A relatively 'poor' (by the UK's perverted definition of that word) human population.
It would be very nice indeed to have new routes every week, and we should be grateful when we do get them, but we really should stop whingeing when we don't. Compare NCL's international services to those at Brest or Rostock. We are very lucky indeed.
*edited to add that we have virtually no inbound tourism either, despite the Newcastlegateshead Initiative's self-justifying claims to the contrary*
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I completely understand that, however, most of the routes that I mention have been served before, quite successfully.
You may argue that a;ll of these destinations can be reached via Amsterdam, Paris, London etc. But surely for our deprived area, we would be served much better with £50-100 flights from EZY/FR rather than £200+ with the legacies
Not to mention that we're still about 1,000,000 pax behind where NCL/MME both were in 2006/7, so demand does still exist!
You may argue that a;ll of these destinations can be reached via Amsterdam, Paris, London etc. But surely for our deprived area, we would be served much better with £50-100 flights from EZY/FR rather than £200+ with the legacies
Not to mention that we're still about 1,000,000 pax behind where NCL/MME both were in 2006/7, so demand does still exist!
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Some would argue that an airfield in a 'deprived area' is a mud strip with a twice monthly aid flight on an IL76, but you make a fair point about the routes no longer served. I am surprised that LGW has never found its way back to the departure boards, but again, looking at the bigger picture, we're doing more than OK.
I admire your youthful enthusiasm, EK77. Us old codgers and codgesses might occasionally pull you up with some of our world-weariness, but keep it up
I admire your youthful enthusiasm, EK77. Us old codgers and codgesses might occasionally pull you up with some of our world-weariness, but keep it up
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I believe it is also the fault of the airlines, in part, for directing resources elsewhere. When it comes to NCL they all seem to jump on the same bucket and spade routes, which really does little good for anyone.
Ryanair appear to be having positive results by going against the grain and offering Warsaw, Gdansk, Wroclaw and Madrid. EasyJet appear to be doing well to Berlin, Jet2's charters do well, but (except Ryanair, of late) they're all very slow to commit long term. i.e I'm sure NCL-VIE could e a success with Jet2. Budapest, Munich, Milan, Venice, Hamburg, Lisbon, Athens with EZY/FR/EW/W6
Ryanair appear to be having positive results by going against the grain and offering Warsaw, Gdansk, Wroclaw and Madrid. EasyJet appear to be doing well to Berlin, Jet2's charters do well, but (except Ryanair, of late) they're all very slow to commit long term. i.e I'm sure NCL-VIE could e a success with Jet2. Budapest, Munich, Milan, Venice, Hamburg, Lisbon, Athens with EZY/FR/EW/W6
I completely understand that, however, most of the routes that I mention have been served before, quite successfully.
You may argue that a;ll of these destinations can be reached via Amsterdam, Paris, London etc. But surely for our deprived area, we would be served much better with £50-100 flights from EZY/FR rather than £200+ with the legacies
Not to mention that we're still about 1,000,000 pax behind where NCL/MME both were in 2006/7, so demand does still exist!
You may argue that a;ll of these destinations can be reached via Amsterdam, Paris, London etc. But surely for our deprived area, we would be served much better with £50-100 flights from EZY/FR rather than £200+ with the legacies
Not to mention that we're still about 1,000,000 pax behind where NCL/MME both were in 2006/7, so demand does still exist!
NCL is doing rather well when you compare it to similar airports with similar catchment areas. An example would be to compare with Belfast's two airports BFS & BHD.
Hub Links;
NCL: Air France (CDG), bmi Regional (BRU), British Airways (LHR), Emirates (DXB), Eurowings (DUS), KLM (AMS)
BFS: none
BHD: British Airways (LHR), KLM (AMS), Icelandair (KEF)
That gives NCL passengers the choice of x1 OneWorld, x2 SkyTeam, x2 Star Alliance, x1 Unaligned. On the other hand, BFS doesn't have any hub connections, and BHD only have x1 OneWorld, x1 SkyTeam, x1 Unaligned
Long Haul Services;
NCL: Emirates (DXB), TUI (SFB)
BFS: Norwegian (PVD, SWF), Virgin Atlantic (MCO)
BHD: none
NCL have a Middle Eastern connection, whereas BFS have LCC operations to the US East Coast.
European Destinations by Airline;
easyJet: BFS (19), NCL (13)
Jet2: BFS (25), NCL (35)
Ryanair: BFS (13), NCL (12)
Thomas Cook: BFS (8), NCL (24)
TUI: BFS (12), NCL (31)
Wizz Air: BFS (1), NCL (0)
Despite adding 8 destinations for 2018, Jet2 still have a much smaller base at BFS than NCL, and both Thomas Cook & TUI have a huge number of destinations on offer from NCL compared to BFS.
Out of the 8 destinations you mentioned, only Milan is operated from BFS, EMA & LPL, all airports of similar size and catchment as NCL, and only Budapest, Hamburg and Venice are operated from two of the three airports.
Yes, you may think that all of these routes would work, and some of them may do so, but NCL is no further behind other similar airports in their European links, and in some cases is over performing in the number of European routes offered.
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Despite adding 8 destinations for 2018, Jet2 still have a much smaller base at BFS than NCL, and both Thomas Cook & TUI have a huge number of destinations on offer from NCL compared to BFS.