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Old 19th Nov 2017, 11:22
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increase in frequency tends to occur above consistent year round 90% loads, is NCL in this category?
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Old 19th Nov 2017, 17:02
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Can't see any increase for the next 3 or 4 years at least.
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Old 19th Nov 2017, 17:07
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NCL will be no where near the top of Emirates expansion list. The 787 will be well suited to the market once they are delivered. Of course this is many years away.
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Old 19th Nov 2017, 18:17
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Change of subject.. Newcastle have been crying out for many,many years for some decent hangerage .

With Jet 2 and to some extent,Easy,BA and Ryanair increasing flights..does anyone think..hangarage may be on the agenda for increased revenue?Not to mention the increase in Executive movements?
Speculate to accumulate?
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Old 19th Nov 2017, 20:39
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Originally Posted by Callum Paterson
NCL will be no where near the top of Emirates expansion list. The 787 will be well suited to the market once they are delivered. Of course this is many years away.
I wouldn’t be all that sure on that, I have it on good authority that the 787-9 will struggle for performance ex NCL.
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Old 19th Nov 2017, 20:41
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Emirates can't expand the current flight much more they have a lot of market share.
Having an evening flight will improve the loads and open up better connection times to Asia which people from the northeast use KLM /BA etc due to them offering better deals for connections.

It is on the cards just a case of when
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Old 19th Nov 2017, 20:57
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Change of subject.. Newcastle have been crying out for many,many years for some decent hangerage .
Where would you put it?
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Old 20th Nov 2017, 05:55
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Originally Posted by NCL-TRC
I wouldn’t be all that sure on that, I have it on good authority that the 787-9 will struggle for performance ex NCL.
EKs would be the even longer again 78-10. Dont think the 77W will be going anywhere.
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Old 20th Nov 2017, 16:21
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Under the terms of the recent EK order for Boeing 787-10 it also mentions that some could be changed to the Boeing 787-9 if the airline decides to do so.

You state 'EKs would be the even longer again 78-10'

I don't think that any take off performance using the runway at NCL is based around the length of the aircraft more to do with MTOW.
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Old 21st Nov 2017, 04:27
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Originally Posted by EK77WNCL
From past experience, they all tend to go out pretty much full, and they don't seem to push prices up last minute, hence there are some pretty good deals to be had!

230/235 when I went last year, I'm sure.

Both EWR flights on A330 showing as full in the system, 326 and 327
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Old 21st Nov 2017, 06:08
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Excellent loads on the A330 EWR flights
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Old 21st Nov 2017, 06:35
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Great news, just proves the demand is still there. Here's hoping if/when 2018 flights get released, Jet2 see this potential and add even more flights
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Old 21st Nov 2017, 09:34
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canberra97 high ground on the 07 end has been a problem in the past. Think a Kuwait 747 once got stuck due to this. My travel A320s used to re-fuel at DTVA for the same reason.
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Old 21st Nov 2017, 18:17
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Surely an A320 can use the runway at NCL without the need to take a fuel stop!
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Old 21st Nov 2017, 18:22
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They may have been different variants of A320 but they couldn't make the Canary Islands without refuelling at DTVA.
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Old 21st Nov 2017, 18:27
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Surely an A320 can use the runway at NCL without the need to take a fuel stop!
Of course they can, the vast majority of the time but it also depends where it is going and what the weather conditions are - heavy departures off 25 are definitely more constrained by the local geography than off 07.
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Old 22nd Nov 2017, 14:20
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
They may have been different variants of A320 but they couldn't make the Canary Islands without refuelling at DTVA.
How much fuel did they upload at DTVA?? Surely coming off track, climbing and descending would have used more fuel than actually going to the Canaries direct.

If it was Man or Birmingham I could understand, but DTVA.
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Old 22nd Nov 2017, 15:54
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I'm pretty sure it was only My Travel who couldn't make it all the way to the Canaries from Newcastle in certain wind conditions; I think it had something to do with the higher ground on the 25 climb out. After a couple of years of this I believe MYT amended their SOP and the refuel requirement disappeared overnight.

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Old 23rd Nov 2017, 00:27
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I can understand why an older generation A320 couldn't make the canaries direct out of NCL on 25. I remember about 10 years ago, Thomas Cook and Balkans would request 07 departures where applicable. Even as recently as 5 years ago I remember a Larnaca departure on a TCX A320 requesting 07, against the flow of departures.

Newer generation A32x's can make it easily... Look at EZY to TFS with 186 pax and sharklets

Incremental PIP's have made the A320 a much more competitive airframe than it was.

MYT's A320/A321's were first generation, with much reduced takeoff performance/range

Amazing to think that the A321LR can probably make East Coast US and Middle East, non stop from NCL, whereas 1st gen couldn't make the canaries
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Old 23rd Nov 2017, 04:13
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The early AIH, that's where it went back to, a320s were relatively old aircraft when we took them. Off 25 on a low pressure day there was not the performance to make the Canaries or Paphos. Going to Teeside meant only one climb to altitude so I believe greater efficiency. Also Teeside was a summer base at that stage.

As for performance off 25 Dan Air's 737 whether 200 or cfm were no better. AIH's MD 83's were of course even worse. Happy days.
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