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Old 18th Jun 2018, 11:46
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How is the expanded Groningen route doing loads wise and also the new Antwerp route, is it doing better than last time
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 11:53
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Originally Posted by Paul015 View Post
How is the expanded Groningen route doing loads wise and also the new Antwerp route, is it doing better than last time
In April 1583 pax to ANR and 5267 pax to GRQ.
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 12:13
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Looking up then but if they don't ration themselves they will run out of slots towards the end of each month. Do they stay or reposition empty to other London Airports for a departure?
My understanding is that the airport polices itself and fines airlines that arrive after the curfew. The same would apply if the nighttime movements limits are exceeded at the end of whatever period is used.* I guess Stobart fine themselves in the latter case.

Given the money raised from fines is periodically handed over to local good causes, with the blessing of the local authority, I cannot believe we are talking big bucks here. Perhaps Stobart are more more than happy to cough up and the arrangement will continue until and unless the council cries foul.

*Compliance is assessed annually.

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Old 18th Jun 2018, 12:37
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Originally Posted by koninckske View Post
In April 1583 pax to ANR and 5267 pax to GRQ.
..... and GRQ (I have a contact there) was 6400 in May; that a 260% increase on May 2017.
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 14:02
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..... and GRQ (I have a contact there) was 6400 in May; that a 260% increase on May 2017.
Wow, that's impressive. How many more flights in May '18 v. May '17 though?
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 14:26
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Originally Posted by Barling Magna View Post
Wow, that's impressive. How many more flights in May '18 v. May '17 though?
I think 72 total in 2017, 154 in 2018.
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 15:34
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Originally Posted by Red Four View Post
I think 72 total in 2017, 154 in 2018.
That's correct.
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 15:46
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If my maths is correct that's an increase in LF from 34.2 to 41.6. Clearly headed in the right direction.
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 16:19
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MAN is rising steadily as well. I was one of 44 on board this morning northbound.
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 18:44
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Originally Posted by LTNman View Post
The case for more early and late trains can only increase with the Ryanair announcement and the general increase in Southend's movements. How long can the rail company hold out?
Greater Anglia are not in a good place. Rumours of their sizeable franchise bond with the DfT having been forfeited. Three entirely new fleets of trains on every route within two years. Theyíre not going to be expanding any service beyond what the DfT specified in the franchise agreement - theyíve got quite enough on their plate.
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 23:31
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1 View Post
MAN is rising steadily as well. I was one of 44 on board this morning northbound.
Only 11 southbound tonight though. 28 got off the evening northbound.
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Old 19th Jun 2018, 15:10
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The long awaited third SEN-based E195, EI-GGC ex G-FBEN, has arrived at SEN this afternoon and looks likely to enter service later today although Titan are operating the DBV this afternoon.. Hopefully this will put an end to the delays and cancellations that have plagued the STK/BE SEN operation for the past couple of weeks.

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Old 19th Jun 2018, 16:05
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Originally Posted by LTNman View Post
Looking up then but if they don't ration themselves they will run out of slots towards the end of each month. Do they stay or reposition empty to other London Airports for a departure?
Having looked at the past couple of days many seem to remain at SEN; three of the six Sunday night inbounds departed between midday and 2100 yesterday and two of the others were still on the ground this morning.
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Old 19th Jun 2018, 19:19
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The numbers to MAN arenít bad, particularly given the route is operated on the ATR. I wonder if people are using the service to connect onwards? The likes of skyScanner and flyBeís own website seems to push connections via MAN quite heavily.

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Old 19th Jun 2018, 22:30
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Originally Posted by Barling Magna View Post
If my maths is correct that's an increase in LF from 34.2 to 41.6. Clearly headed in the right direction.
Isn't this more like 42 pax per flight on an 68 seater, ie a load facotr north of 60 per cent?
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Old 19th Jun 2018, 22:56
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Originally Posted by brian_dromey View Post
The numbers to MAN arenít bad, particularly given the route is operated on the ATR. I wonder if people are using the service to connect onwards? The likes of skyScanner and flyBeís own website seems to push connections via MAN quite heavily.

My experience is that a few are, but the majority arenít. For example, last night there were no transfer pax in either direction. At most itís only ever been a handful on any flight Iíve been on. That said, Iíve never got the afternoon flight northbound (which is good for connections at either end) but when booking my next couple of flights Iíve noticed that to be the one that says ďOnly X seats left at £XXĒ whereas the couple of times Iíve seen it arrive into MAN in the earlier days there was hardly anyone on it.
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Old 20th Jun 2018, 17:02
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Originally Posted by virginblue View Post
Isn't this more like 42 pax per flight on an 68 seater, ie a load facotr north of 60 per cent?
Yes, of course you're right. I did say if my maths was correct, which naturally it wasn't.
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Old 22nd Jun 2018, 15:20
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Good to see the schedules more or less on time now that the third E195 has arrived, although I don't know why the morning Glasgow was cancelled. LOT have announced flights from Budapest to LCY from next February. Will that kill off the SEN Budapest operation do you think?
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Old 22nd Jun 2018, 16:14
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Originally Posted by tophat27dt View Post
Good to see the schedules more or less on time now that the third E195 has arrived, although I don't know why the morning Glasgow was cancelled. LOT have announced flights from Budapest to LCY from next February. Will that kill off the SEN Budapest operation do you think?
Totally different market, LCY service will target business travellers. I can't really see it working to be honest. Not sure if their is enough central London business pax to warrant the service, particularly with a foreign airline for BUD with no connections either side.

I can see EZY one day replacing the BE SEN route. They currently only serve LGW and fares are redicilously high all year round to BUD on thurs, fri, sun and Mon with all the weekend stag and city breaks, so yields must be decent. Could be a good fit in their route network/London ops and touristy enough for SEN to sustain its own market with all the competition from other London airports.
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Old 25th Jun 2018, 10:46
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Wonderful photo on Southend Operations and Movements Facebook page taken from the tower early this morning. I counted 25 or more aircraft on the aprons, with not a spare stand apparent. Even had a Gulfstream parked up on stand 1.

Overnight arrivals come from all corners of the globe, a truly cosmopolitan atmosphere.

Long may it continue, or until the end of September at least!!
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