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Wizzair have already publicly stated that if they can get more slots at Gatwick, they will operate more flights to supplement the routes north of the Thames.
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Ok. The new guy? set it up and you delivered the knockout blow.
Sad as this thing is to me is after years of talking about 2.5 million pax pa, 2020 looked set to deliver. Incredible really from an airport that was breathing its raspy last breaths just over a decade ago. (Please ignore Mr Warwick Brady’s 20 million pax pa) Let’s just say he’s a very silly boy and leave it there.
But it let it be said. SEN is a modern facility that does not require a huge capital expenditure from a prospective owner. If, please God, a solution is found to this damn pandemic then maybe Stobart will find a buyer or partner that will take the airport into a brave new world and a sustainable future.
One thing I am convinced about SEN is no longer a crumbling terminal with a potholed runway. No one is going to take a wrecking ball to this airport any time soon.
Sad as this thing is to me is after years of talking about 2.5 million pax pa, 2020 looked set to deliver. Incredible really from an airport that was breathing its raspy last breaths just over a decade ago. (Please ignore Mr Warwick Brady’s 20 million pax pa) Let’s just say he’s a very silly boy and leave it there.
But it let it be said. SEN is a modern facility that does not require a huge capital expenditure from a prospective owner. If, please God, a solution is found to this damn pandemic then maybe Stobart will find a buyer or partner that will take the airport into a brave new world and a sustainable future.
One thing I am convinced about SEN is no longer a crumbling terminal with a potholed runway. No one is going to take a wrecking ball to this airport any time soon.
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Replace Stansted with near on 150 destinations? 😂
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As feared, Ryanair have also massively cut back on routes and frequencies from 31/8 almost across the board. There isn’t much left operating in September. Although to be fair there are also some pretty drastic cuts at STN too.
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With Ryanair targeting some of EasyJet’s SEN routes it reminds me of their arrival on the Luton Copenhagen service. They muscled in, Easyjet gave up the route and Ryanair cut capacity overnight taking most of the business back to Stansted. I think at one stage it was Luton’s busiest route.
Did Ryanair play its part in Easyjet pulling out?
Did Ryanair play its part in Easyjet pulling out?
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Again can some on here get into the real world of 2020. Travel has changed dramatically especially air travel, so let us try and discuss things rationally.
Regarding the easyJet, Ryanair, Wizz situation, it seems to me that easy are going to concentrate on Gatwick and Luton as are Wizz if they can get Gatwick slots with Ryanair concentrating on Stansted with a smaller operation at Gatwick and Luton. Jet2 concentrating at Stansted and as for Southend maybe the odd Ryanair service but I would not bank on it. Sorry but that is the REAL world in 2020.
Regarding the easyJet, Ryanair, Wizz situation, it seems to me that easy are going to concentrate on Gatwick and Luton as are Wizz if they can get Gatwick slots with Ryanair concentrating on Stansted with a smaller operation at Gatwick and Luton. Jet2 concentrating at Stansted and as for Southend maybe the odd Ryanair service but I would not bank on it. Sorry but that is the REAL world in 2020.
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Seems a good summery, which I doubt many can argue with. Southend success was based on other airports having capacity issues, which even Stobart played on. Those issues have been removed.
Headline from less than a year ago. How the world has changed.
https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/180...year-ambition/
Headline from less than a year ago. How the world has changed.
https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/180...year-ambition/
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So the process of culling staff has begun at SEN.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.e...-airports/amp/
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.e...-airports/amp/
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Whistling in the dark.....?
"Stobart Aviation Services provides check-in and baggage handling services to easyJet at both London Southend and London Stansted. As a result of the decision to close these bases, the company will enter a consultation process with the teams affected as part of a wider cost management programme within the aviation division. Warwick Brady, chief executive of Stobart Group, said: "We are disappointed that easyJet has taken the decision to close its airport bases serving the North and East of London. However, we expect that this decision will create significant opportunity for other airlines looking to take on established, popular and profitable routes. Though the 2020 summer and winter periods will continue to be challenging, we expect passenger demand for short haul leisure flying to increase through 2021, and we are in active dialogue with airlines regarding their interest in capitalising on these well-established, profitable routes." "
"Stobart Aviation Services provides check-in and baggage handling services to easyJet at both London Southend and London Stansted. As a result of the decision to close these bases, the company will enter a consultation process with the teams affected as part of a wider cost management programme within the aviation division. Warwick Brady, chief executive of Stobart Group, said: "We are disappointed that easyJet has taken the decision to close its airport bases serving the North and East of London. However, we expect that this decision will create significant opportunity for other airlines looking to take on established, popular and profitable routes. Though the 2020 summer and winter periods will continue to be challenging, we expect passenger demand for short haul leisure flying to increase through 2021, and we are in active dialogue with airlines regarding their interest in capitalising on these well-established, profitable routes." "
That is the crux of the problem which means that SEN is likely to fare worse than other LON airports during the recovery period. There will be so many other options available once the market starts to show increased activity, whenever that may be and it's a brave man who predicts a timescale for that. Warwick Brady's optimism that airlines will want to "capitalise on on these well-established (EZY) profitable routes" is a bold assumption when consolidation is likely to figure strongly in the plans of his target airlines. Ryanair could increase frequencies at SEN for Summer 2021(?) to soak up the previous easyJet market for which SEN is its natural departure airport or maybe not. The fact is that on one can say with any degree of confidence, in this unprecedented situation, what will happen and when. Stobart don't even have the capability now of taking on routes themselves as part of a SEN recovery. Hard times ahead I'm afraid.
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With the known Stobart modus of seeking & utilizing public money possible truth is they are just hanging on for the Chancellor`s Autumn Statement hoping too for the Main Chance of at least one of their airport sites being named as a Freeport site...
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Stobart really will have a tough couple of years ahead, if they’re lucky they might get someone else to fly to AMS as it was one of the busiest routes, otherwise over time I’d expect Ryanair may take any of the other routes if worthwhile rather than let a competitor in
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Sadly, SEN is ideally situated to cater for the large and relatively affluent catchment area of South Essex and East London and offers a better alternative to long and unpredictable journeys around various Motorways to get to LTN, STN or LGW. Primarily a holiday airport, business or domestic routes have never been a great success, we can only hope that when the situation returns to something like pre Covid times demand will return and with it the airlines.
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LTNman, if we could attract anything like the business movements Farnborough or Biggin Hill achieve, all might not be lost. We have, after all, a rather splendid Stobart Jet Centre