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Old 23rd Jul 2019, 08:25
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Expressflight, well said. Have good day, apparently 05 is currently in use.
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Old 23rd Jul 2019, 09:30
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Originally Posted by Expressflight View Post
Regarding RYR's SEN Ops, as a guide in normal, but very warm, Summer temperatures they can lift 189 pax for a 3 hour flight with no problems and only after that do they need to be creative with 'packs off' procedures and the like.

Off to SEN now.
Thats interesting, I thought the 738 is, as a rule, a poorer performer than the A319/320, is this the benefit of the SFP on FRs newer 737s? Apparently the 320neo is, more or less, unrestricted out of SEN, unlike the A319s - easyJets examples are derated, I understand? Interestingly most of the A319 sales in recent years have been to Chinese airlines operating into high airfields in the Himalayas - a different species of A319 to ehe easyJet examples.
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Old 23rd Jul 2019, 09:40
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Originally Posted by Spanish eyes View Post
There is a bit of a difference as overbooking if carried out is by one or two seats only and allows for no shows so I doubt if anyone is routinely kicked off a flight as most flights are not full and those that are will have passengers who have not turned up so allowing for those overbooked to find a seat. What is going to happen is the mass expulsion of passengers due to a weather issue that for Easyjet is unique to Southend and won't happen at Gatwick, Luton and Stansted in the London area. That is assuming the flights are nearly full.
As a matter of interest has LTN ever suffered restrictive RTOWs due to surface temperature? I ask only because although LTN has excellent TODAs of 3,243m, due to its geographical features, it has an TORA/ASDA of 'only' 2,162m on 08. As I say, just curious about it and no hidden agenda.
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Old 23rd Jul 2019, 09:48
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Originally Posted by Expressflight View Post
. Some on here simply seize any opportunity to emphasise SEN's limitations and that's their choice but you won't find the same thing on the LTN forum when it's SNOCLO for hours and SEN is operational.
That is not true. Us folk at Luton can be very critical of LTN and rightly so. I certainly say it how I see it and don't paint a picture of a flower when I see a turd. Many subjects would be no go areas here as it would be seen as picking on Southend but improvements often only come from pressure to do things better.

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Old 23rd Jul 2019, 10:04
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Originally Posted by LTNman View Post
That is not true. Us folk at Luton can be very critical of LTN and rightly so. I certainly say it how I see it and don't paint a picture of a flower when I see a turd. Many subjects would be no go areas here as it would be seen as picking on Southend but improvements often only come from pressure to do things better.
I'm afraid the perception you give in your 6861 posts LTNman is of someone who is highly critical of SEN. Quick to pounce on the slightest negative news but very silent on anything positive.
Of course you are entitled to criticise , however a little balance would be welcome and add credibility when you choose to give us the benefit of your wealth of knowledge in all things aviation.

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Old 23rd Jul 2019, 12:25
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I just read elsewhere the comments of a disgruntled easyJet passenger who was denied boarding at SEN on a Faro flight at the end of June. She didn't comment negatively on the airport, but did criticize the airline. Likewise I think the posters on here need to recognize that what they deem to be anti-SEN news is in fact news/rumour that more accurately reflects poorly on the airline.
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Old 23rd Jul 2019, 18:02
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Originally Posted by Planespeaking View Post


I'm afraid the perception you give in your 6861 posts LTNman is of someone who is highly critical of SEN.
You will have to dig some out for me then and then compare some of my LTN posts.

Anyway this thread is about Southend and not those that post.

We await to hear a report from Expressflight not that anything can be done about the weather but it will be interesting to hear anyway as Southend hits the summer peak about how the airport is coping and if there is room for improvement.

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Old 23rd Jul 2019, 19:32
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I flew Ryanair last week Sunday to Sunday. Ryanair. Last plane out of the morning rush. .. no problems, no queues..
A couple of late passengers where hoiked out of the check in Q to get an earlier RYR flight ..
Staff all great as usual ..
The only potential issue I saw was from the Ryan air stands... on return there is no cover airside as you are sometimes held up for a bit if they are letting easy jet passengers our from land side, across the corridor back to passport control.
Wouldn’t be fun if it was raining
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Old 24th Jul 2019, 08:59
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I'll share my thoughts later regarding my SEN visit yesterday but I have the numbers for the first two FlyOne Chisinau (KIV) flights this week. Inbound to SEN they were 28 and 24 respectively while outbound they were 144 and 144.
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Old 24th Jul 2019, 09:20
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Originally Posted by Expressflight View Post
I'll share my thoughts later regarding my SEN visit yesterday but I have the numbers for the first two FlyOne Chisinau (KIV) flights this week. Inbound to SEN they were 28 and 24 respectively while outbound they were 144 and 144.
Impressive figures for the outbounds I assume a few infants were onboard as its a 132 config on the a319
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Old 24th Jul 2019, 11:44
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Originally Posted by NickBarnes View Post
Impressive figures for the outbounds I assume a few infants were onboard as its a 132 config on the a319
There was actually 144 + 6 children outward.
Seating is for 144 on A319
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Old 24th Jul 2019, 12:23
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Looking at the prices on Flyone's website, demand appears to be there - if you want the next flight from Southend Municipal Airport to Chisinau it will cost you in excess of €600.

It's very early, but it would be nice to think this may be a route that will last more than a season.

Correction: The price I quoted is for 2 people. Still pretty healthy.
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Old 24th Jul 2019, 12:48
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave View Post
Looking at the prices on Flyone's website, demand appears to be there - if you want the next flight from Southend Municipal Airport to Chisinau it will cost you in excess of €600.

It's very early, but it would be nice to think this may be a route that will last more than a season.

Correction: The price I quoted is for 2 people. Still pretty healthy.
Southend Municipal Airport...now there's a title from about 50 years ago. Fingers x'd for Flyone.
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Old 24th Jul 2019, 12:48
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Originally Posted by tophat27dt View Post
There was actually 144 + 6 children outward.
Seating is for 144 on A319
Impressive as there are established connections at LTN & STN and the airports own web site doesn't list Southend as a route
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Old 24th Jul 2019, 13:24
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Originally Posted by tophat27dt View Post
There was actually 144 + 6 children outward.
Seating is for 144 on A319
​​Ah thank you for some reason I thought it was 132, very good loads!
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Old 24th Jul 2019, 13:41
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Originally Posted by Planespeaking View Post

Southend Municipal Airport...now there's a title from about 50 years ago. Fingers x'd for Flyone.
The name is right there on Flyone’s booking page. Perhaps the route has been a long time in the planning!!
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Old 24th Jul 2019, 13:52
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave View Post


The name is right there on Flyone’s booking page. Perhaps the route has been a long time in the planning!!
Brilliant Dave, well it is Eastern Europe...they aren't using TU 104s on the route are they??
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Old 24th Jul 2019, 17:32
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I found it interesting that Warwick Brady, in a feature on Stobart Group on the the Proactiveinvestors website, is quoted saying that among Stobart's aims was the creation of "a Virgin-branded network to complement our portfolio of airlines at the airport (SEN)". That's the first time I have seen any specific reference to their plans for SEN directly arising from the creation of Connect Airways (the vehicle created for the purchase of Flybe and the embodyment of Stobart Air within that entity).
Hopefully the exact nature this "Virgin-branded network" will become clear before too long.
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Old 24th Jul 2019, 17:52
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Let’s hope that’s not just a re-branding of the existing ATRs and Flybe routes
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Old 24th Jul 2019, 18:14
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Originally Posted by southender View Post
Let’s hope that’s not just a re-branding of the existing ATRs and Flybe routes
Have a feeling that's all it will be in the short term, and I'd love to be wrong, but I don't see any dramatic growth directly from Connect.

Stobart have demonstrated that they can attract airlines to SEN, I just think that's the way they will wish to continue to grow the airport, not go down the organic route again.

To be frank, I think there's more chance of Chris Grayling keeping his job as Transport Secretary........ hold on - breaking news - he's been sacked!

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