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Old 20th Sep 2018, 13:55
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Old 20th Sep 2018, 16:42
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Originally Posted by GAZMO View Post
aye, sure the folks on the hill will make it a priority just as soon as they reseat the assembly. (Maybe once they finish flegs and marches and other such crucial cultural neccessities)
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Old 22nd Sep 2018, 07:16
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EDI TATL ops ceasing as well as BCN,TFS. Think that answers the questions RE BFS.
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Old 22nd Sep 2018, 09:15
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I travelled via BFS on Thursday afternoon. Security was a shambles with two lines closed. The over-worked staff were doing their best but it was queued back to the escalators. There is no excuse for this, whatever some of the BFS fans think.
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Old 22nd Sep 2018, 10:01
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I don't think any Bfs fan finds it acceptable. But in an age where we all want to fly for peanuts, what do you suggest? Most airports are having problems with security, what is your solution?
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Old 22nd Sep 2018, 11:31
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Originally Posted by True Blue View Post
I don't think any Bfs fan finds it acceptable. But in an age where we all want to fly for peanuts, what do you suggest?
Agree...while BFS is built on loco flights, it's going to be hard to compete. Look at the investments in BHD...maybe nothing earth shattering, but new security recently, and now the new shopping area (even if it has introduced the dreadful, forced, "black brick road" through perfumery et al). For an airport with a lot less passengers than BFS, but more premium routes (and carriers), it shows what can be done. BFS badly needs to attract an Air France or Luftansa or Delta/America/United/Air Canada. If we can get a few of those airlines, then the momentum builds to introduce 'full fare' type facilities. But it's a vicious circle. You don't get the routes without the facilities, and you don't get the facilities without the routes. But BFS is a poor gateway for NI just now.
I flew into Providence with Norwegian in August...an airport that is 2/3 the size of BFS (in terms of passenger numbers) and yet has a fabulous new terminal...not opulent, but fit for purpose. The big difference...it's owned by the state of Rhode Island, and they see it as a gateway for their state. It's a pity we don't have the same approach here...
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Old 22nd Sep 2018, 11:39
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The airport in Hong Kong is nice !!
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Old 22nd Sep 2018, 14:16
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Originally Posted by kildress View Post
I travelled via BFS on Thursday afternoon. Security was a shambles with two lines closed. The over-worked staff were doing their best but it was queued back to the escalators. There is no excuse for this, whatever some of the BFS fans think.
The airport is too small for the number of passengers it carries now. There is not enough eateries for a start.
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Old 22nd Sep 2018, 17:25
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Originally Posted by snn20 View Post
EDI TATL ops ceasing as well as BCN,TFS. Think that answers the questions RE BFS.
BFS is being cancelled as well.
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Old 22nd Sep 2018, 20:28
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Are FR starting operations from BHD? Just that my home airport on the phone app is 'Belfast City'.
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Old 22nd Sep 2018, 21:06
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No idea but somethings go on at BHD for sure
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Old 23rd Sep 2018, 22:25
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I believe the official cancellation of routes from BFS will happen the day they announce BHD as their new Airport
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Old 23rd Sep 2018, 22:37
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Originally Posted by BHD2BFS View Post
I believe the official cancellation of routes from BFS will happen the day they announce BHD as their new Airport
Based on what?
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Old 24th Sep 2018, 00:44
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Originally Posted by BHD2BFS View Post
I believe the official cancellation of routes from BFS will happen the day they announce BHD as their new Airport
And the whole lot of balls continues while Dublin laughs?
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Old 24th Sep 2018, 13:10
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Norwegian cancelled
announcement in the Belfast Telegraph

I know a lot of winding up and slaging goes on here but genuinely I am sorry for any workers affected by this announcement.

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Old 24th Sep 2018, 13:38
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I think we all knew it was coming. Sorry to see any airport losing flights. Back to the drawing board for BFS management ?

Delta?? AA?? Not many TA airlines left
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Old 24th Sep 2018, 13:57
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Well all the bull about cutting APD. That has happened on long haul in NI and what do we have? A couple of seasonal bucket and spade flights to Orlando - pathetic.
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Old 24th Sep 2018, 14:09
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Statement from Aldergrove management. Brief highlights:

- "the flight schedule was neither flexible or attractive enough"

- Norwegian's "limited & inferior product"

- Norwegian "moronically" channelled greater levels of NI passengers to Dublin.

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Old 24th Sep 2018, 17:07
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Time for BFS management to earn a crust now. I like(d) using BFS as much as possible, its my local, becoming past tense due to what appears to be a continuing decline in service especially around security at times that tend to affect me, and overcrowding generally.

APD / lack of an executive aside, that's 3 pops at the transatlantic cherry that have been blown in fairly quick succession. Why? The first port of call has to be some tough questions of the airport itself and its strategy, its too easy to lay the blame on Dublin, executive, Stormont, APD, the Norwegian product being inferior / narrowbody aircraft (which very few outside of the likes of enthusiasts are going to know anything about) etc. There's 2 million on the doorstep but, having had the opportunity, has anyone really tried finding out why they don't want to use BFS, so you can try and fix it? I haven't been asked and I'm through regularly. How many of the 2 million actively want to go to the US? How many knew about the Norwegian offering? Why did they dismiss it? How many just prefer Dublin and aren't going to be swayed? How many are swayed solely by the prospect of saving 40 quid by connecting through LHR or AMS or CDG or somewhere? Does this market actually exist, or is it one that BFS just really really want to exist? You can't fix the problem until you know what it is.

Personally - I'd much prefer to see priorities shifted to establishing some proper business connections to European cities, more than limited US connectivity or more bucket and spade routes to more parts of Spain that I don't want to go to.
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Old 24th Sep 2018, 17:13
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Originally Posted by cuthere View Post
Statement from Aldergrove management. Brief highlights:

- "the flight schedule was neither flexible or attractive enough"

- Norwegian's "limited & inferior product"

- Norwegian "moronically" channelled greater levels of NI passengers to Dublin.
I actually cannot beleive they have issued such a statement. Makes them look rather unprofessional.

You would be forgiven for thinking they have read about a possible BHD switch on here. On a serious note I hope they conduct themselves better when tryung to attract an airline.
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