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Old 13th Dec 2017, 17:09
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That's Freebird Airlines will be a A320
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Old 13th Dec 2017, 17:49
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Originally Posted by canberra97
I was really hoping that posters who are familiar with what you have described would have replied as I too would be very interested in what BFS have in mind when it comes to the outdated terminal.
I think BFS gets a harsh review compared to other airports where the bits that look their age are emphasised over the bits that have been updated.

Having said that, I understand some improvements are on the way. Notably new check in toilets at long last.
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Old 13th Dec 2017, 19:05
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I think they are also looking at adding more retail space.
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Old 13th Dec 2017, 20:06
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They would need to look into improving the aesthetics of the outside, looks like 1990s
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Again,only parts do. Plus, it is only aesthetic and is not gonna generate revenue, whereas retail is and will be a priority. I think they will extend the search area too.

If you take a hypothetical flight. Drop off and check in are fine, as is the front of the terminal (waterfall canopy excepted) for all of the 20 seconds you spend walking in. Escalators to and the search area are fine as functional areas and are bright enough. The cafe areas and main departures area are fresh enough. Lounge at gt 10 is ok with the new floor. Business lounge is also recently refurbed if that is your bag. The outbound intl corridor and the intl lounge are well in need of an upgrade and the stairwells at the gates are poor. Of that journey though the amount of time spent at the old areas is minimal. I think we Northern Ireland folk tend to be a bit critical of our own and are a bit blind to the same issues that occur everywhere else too.
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I think the airport is generally fine compared to any other airport. My complaints would be the security nightmare and baggage reclaim. Is the international pier vacant at ground level for part of the length? If so they could move passport control towards the West end of the pier. From here a set of stairs would take you down to a long space with several baggage reclaim belts leading eventually into the current baggage area.
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Old 15th Dec 2017, 13:35
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Jet2 Summer 2018

Looks like it will be 2x B738 & 2x B733 for S18 now instead of 1x B738 & 3x B733!
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Old 15th Dec 2017, 15:22
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Flights to Carlisle next year, but which airline? or which Belfast airport?

Carlisle to London for under £100, reveals city airport | News & Star
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Old 15th Dec 2017, 15:39
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I say it will be from BHD with Stobart Air.

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Old 15th Dec 2017, 18:11
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I’d say that’s a safe wager.
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Within the bucket of hair-brained ideas, BHD-Carlisle must surely reside near the bottom..especially on a 50 seater.
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Not more retail

I don't go to an airport for shopping. Bristol is horrendous - shops prioritised over security until a recent upgrade. You go through security and end up in a mass of shops and have to fight your way to the gate. No wonder they ask you to turn up two hours before for an 0700 departure.
Having worked at BFS for Servisair in the 1980s before the volumes increased and now travelling for business and VFR, I like BFS and BHD. Its pretty easy (at least at the times I fly) to get from the taxi to the departure gate. I haven't used the international pier at BFS so can't comment on that, but the main terminal just needs freshening up, not a massive building programme funded by a shopping centre.
We have lost the plot in this country - airports should be paid for by landing and handling fees and shops should be ancillary for those that want to use them, not part of an IKEA style maze to stop you getting onto the plane.
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The alternative is for fees to be risen, which would ultimately just increase fares and reduce connectivity.
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Old 16th Dec 2017, 11:16
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Spot on - people don't want to pay for flights, so airports have to make money some how.
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Old 16th Dec 2017, 15:04
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I airports should be paid for by landing and handling fees and shops should be ancillary for those that want to use them, not part of an IKEA style maze to stop you getting onto the plane.
An express ticket to bankruptcy for most airports bar the likes of Heathrow. Ryanair would b****r off immediately for a start.
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Old 16th Dec 2017, 15:10
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It is typical to have a walkway of shops in British airports, it seems.
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Old 16th Dec 2017, 15:15
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Question Ryanair Based - Summer 2018

I was looking at the times for the two based Ryanair aircraft for BFS.
And seen there are some gaps in the schedules for both Aircraft.

- Aircraft One that does the Stansted flights has a gap from about 14:15 to about 20:00 everyday.

- Aircraft Two that does the European flights has gaps everyday expect Monday & Friday. Gap is from about 12:00 to about 16:30. And on Tuesday morning there is nothing until the afternoon at about 16:40.

Does anyone think they will add any other UK route to full some of the gaps. Surely EMA or LBA could work by using one of the gaps and then use a non based aircraft in the morning and evening?
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Old 16th Dec 2017, 15:26
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Blackfriar,

I have a lot of sympathy with your views. Stansted is the worst I’ve seen recently but Gatwick South isn’t far behind now.
Heathrow T5 is how it should be done. Plenty of shopping for those who want it, but a free flow from security straight into the departure lounge area for those who don’t...that’s what BFS should aspire too, albeit on smaller scale. This forcing of passengers down a yellow brick road of high end tat is an insult!
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Old 16th Dec 2017, 18:46
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An insult? Catch a grip. You are a self steering human being who can walk by all the shops if you want to. As has been mentioned above, the airport must do this to supplement the fact that you don't want to pay to fly anywhere either.

BFS should aspire to T5? Holy delusions Batman
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Old 16th Dec 2017, 20:01
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Calm yourself man...and read again, slowly.

On the reference to T5, did you not see the "albeit on a smaller scale" bit? I doubt BFS will ever resemble T5, but I think anyone reading my post with a titter of wit would understand that I was talking about the design philosophy...

And as for the rest of your rant, yes, we're all self steering. But the modern approach to airport shopping treats us like a flock of sheep that need to be herded along a shop-lined avenue, that wends its way in the least direct route possible from security to lounge. By way of illustration, T5 is the exception which lets you go straight to the lounge.

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