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Old 20th Sep 2019, 15:34
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Belfast International Airport chief Graham Keddie welcomes Vinci Concessions chief executive Nicolas Notebaert to Aldergrove yesterday as the airport's new branding was unveiled

The head of Belfast International Airport's French majority owners Vinci insists that "money is no object" in growing the Aldergrove hub and attracting new routes.

Nicolas Notebaert, chief executive of Vinci Concessions and president of Vinci Airports hinted at the potential of a new terminal building in the coming years.

He also suggested that Vinci would throw its weight behind ambitions to attract additional carriers including Qatar and America Airlines to Belfast.

More Here: Belfast International Airport owners reveal ambitious expansion plan - The Irish News
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Old 20th Sep 2019, 15:52
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Originally Posted by BFS BHD View Post
Ryanair appear to be adding Gdansk and Warsaw back for Summer 2020 which is a good sign. Krakow also seems to be getting loaded into the system. All operated by Ryanair Sun.
From their mobile app it looks like Warsaw and Gdansk twice weekly Tues and Sat, KRK three weekly tues thurs and Sun
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Old 20th Sep 2019, 18:06
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Anyone know if QR are Launching BFS - DOH? Its been over a year QR expressed interest, surely they would have announced something by now if they were still interested, unless they are waiting for the A321 Neo to be delivered.
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Old 20th Sep 2019, 21:34
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Originally Posted by DUB19 View Post
Anyone know if QR are Launching BFS - DOH? Its been over a year QR expressed interest, surely they would have announced something by now if they were still interested, unless they are waiting for the A321 Neo to be delivered.
yes. New York, Dubai Frankfurt and various European hubs soon to be announced......., oops its not april 1st lol
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Old 21st Sep 2019, 01:12
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Originally Posted by BFS BHD View Post
Belfast International Airport chief Graham Keddie welcomes Vinci Concessions chief executive Nicolas Notebaert to Aldergrove yesterday as the airport's new branding was unveiled

The head of Belfast International Airport's French majority owners Vinci insists that "money is no object" in growing the Aldergrove hub and attracting new routes.

Nicolas Notebaert, chief executive of Vinci Concessions and president of Vinci Airports hinted at the potential of a new terminal building in the coming years.

He also suggested that Vinci would throw its weight behind ambitions to attract additional carriers including Qatar and America Airlines to Belfast.

More Here: Belfast International Airport owners reveal ambitious expansion plan - The Irish News
Surprised that BFS be owners don't recognise the need to get the LHR link back or to attract other non LCC carrier into the mix, I thought before I read the link that it would contain something to the effect_...
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Old 21st Sep 2019, 08:51
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Originally Posted by EI-BUD View Post
Surprised that BFS be owners don't recognise the need to get the LHR link back or to attract other non LCC carrier into the mix, I thought before I read the link that it would contain something to the effect_...
Who realistically would be likely to operate LHR? Non LCC for other routes? Who?
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Old 21st Sep 2019, 10:42
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Who realistically would be likely to operate LHR? Non LCC for other routes? Who?
its not about who, its about what they want.
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Old 21st Sep 2019, 11:36
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Originally Posted by 2Para View Post
its not about who, its about what they want.
actually, it is about who. You need an airline to operate the route!?
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Old 21st Sep 2019, 11:43
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The head of Belfast International Airport's French majority owners Vinci insists that "money is no object" in growing the Aldergrove hub and attracting new routes.
Nicolas Notebaert, chief executive of Vinci Concessions and president of Vinci Airports hinted at the potential of a new terminal building in the coming years.


Hub?
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Old 21st Sep 2019, 12:21
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Originally Posted by 2Para View Post
its not about who, its about what they want.
Be an exercise in futility. The kind of airlines that would operate LHR from the Belfast market already are and non LCC airlines are mainly struggling and the like of say LH or IB would head for BHD.
Imao BFS are right to pursue middle East and US carriers, and in many respects getting growth from other LCC is possible, and mopping up from FR and EI cutbacks.
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Old 21st Sep 2019, 12:42
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Easyjet have been saying for almost a decade that they are interested in opening a base in Heathrow if a third runway is built. The previous easyJet CEO reckoned on a double digit size fleet based there. A BFS LHR route would be quite likely I would have thought considering the total size of the Belfast-London market. LHR is one of the last few major airports in Europe without an easyJet presence.

2018 BBC article.
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Old 21st Sep 2019, 15:14
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Originally Posted by speedrestriction View Post
Easyjet have been saying for almost a decade that they are interested in opening a base in Heathrow if a third runway is built. The previous easyJet CEO reckoned on a double digit size fleet based there. A BFS LHR route would be quite likely I would have thought considering the total size of the Belfast-London market. LHR is one of the last few major airports in Europe without an easyJet presence.

2018 BBC article.
And I can see them doing it, but I can't see onwards connections so not a huge benefit.
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Old 21st Sep 2019, 15:21
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actually, it is about who. You need an airline to operate the route!?
actually it is about what the fee is, airlines use incentives as much as what they reap off the route, DUB
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Old 21st Sep 2019, 21:15
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Originally Posted by 2Para View Post
actually it is about what the fee is, airlines use incentives as much as what they reap off the route, DUB
LCC’s are far more susceptible to taking incentives to operate from sub-par locations than full service carriers who offer more than one class LCC service.

LHR is not a LCC airport, BFS is. Until BFS is not a dump I find it very hard to see why any non-LCC would put their higher fare paying passengers through the carnage. Its a recipe for complaints.

BFS needs new infrastructure in the flavour of proper premium ground services eg. consistent priority security, a decent lounge (Causeway is terrible and too busy at peak times) and then the part they can’t buy easily - efficient transport links to the countries biggest population centres.

IMO in comparison to somewhere like LHR, BFS is a truly awful place to travel through.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 08:23
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The £1 parking fee for drop off is highly irritating - fair enough if there is a “premium” drop off but in the interests of fairness I believe there should always be a free drop off location available.

At the moment people get dropped off at the petrol station across the road and cross the road through traffic (no pedestrian crossing). Sooner or later a pedestrian will get hit for the sake of the airport not providing an adequate free drop off point.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 09:01
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Originally Posted by EGAC is Better View Post


LCC’s are far more susceptible to taking incentives to operate from sub-par locations than full service carriers who offer more than one class LCC service.

LHR is not a LCC airport, BFS is. Until BFS is not a dump I find it very hard to see why any non-LCC would put their higher fare paying passengers through the carnage. Its a recipe for complaints.

BFS needs new infrastructure in the flavour of proper premium ground services eg. consistent priority security, a decent lounge (Causeway is terrible and too busy at peak times) and then the part they can’t buy easily - efficient transport links to the countries biggest population centres.

IMO in comparison to somewhere like LHR, BFS is a truly awful place to travel through.
BFS is a bit tired after being denied expenditure while it was up for sale - classic behaviour by seller. It is not, in my experience, "carnage" or a dump. Lo-cos will pay only the minimum so no airbridges or fancy lounges. The market has decided that people will stand in the rain, put up with minimal facilities and pay outrageous amounts for parking to get a cheap flight. At the times I use BFS (0800 arrival and 2100 departure) it works very well. Security is like anywhere else (and miles better than BRS was a couple of years ago when it had huge delays). The rest is just a big shed with food and drink outlets. A bit like Waterloo or Paddington stations which are nothing special either.

It could definitely do with a spuce up but with such low landing fees as demanded by locos there is limited budget for any massive development. That is the nature of 21st Century flying. If you gave people the choice of fewer flights, higher fares and a nicer terminal they would tell you where to go.
If you want a shiny status symbol, the government or somebody else needs to pay for it, but it's not a dump and not carnage. running it down doesn't help, how about some creative solutions to making improvements without simply demanding other people spend money?

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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 09:09
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Originally Posted by speedrestriction View Post
The £1 parking fee for drop off is highly irritating - fair enough if there is a “premium” drop off but in the interests of fairness I believe there should always be a free drop off location available.

At the moment people get dropped off at the petrol station across the road and cross the road through traffic (no pedestrian crossing). Sooner or later a pedestrian will get hit for the sake of the airport not providing an adequate free drop off point.
I believe there is a free drop off at the long stay car park. If I’m incorrect I’m sure someone will amend

£1 is a fair price for drop off compared to other UK airports. Imagine the chaos if there was no charge
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 09:18
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Originally Posted by Blackfriar View Post
BFS is a bit tired after being denied expenditure while it was up for sale - classic behaviour by seller. It is not, in my experience, "carnage" or a dump. Lo-cos will pay only the minimum so no airbridges or fancy lounges. The market has decided that people will stand in the rain, put up with minimal facilities and pay outrageous amounts for parking to get a cheap flight. At the times I use BFS (0800 arrival and 2100 departure) it works very well. Security is like anywhere else (and miles better than BRS was a couple of years ago when it had huge delays). The rest is just a big shed with food and drink outlets. A bit like Waterloo or Paddington stations which are nothing special either.

It could definitely do with a spuce up but with such low landing fees as demanded by locos there is limited budget for any massive development. That is the nature of 21st Century flying. If you gave people the choice of fewer flights, higher fares and a nicer terminal they would tell you where to go.
If you want a shiny status symbol, the government or somebody else needs to pay for it, but it's not a dump and not carnage. running it down doesn't help, how about some creative solutions to making improvements without simply demanding other people spend money?
Fair point Blackfriar. I mean an airport is like a railway station for planes. It's a place where you commence or terminate a journey by plane. It's not a spa resort hotel. All airports IMO are an unpleasant experience. The whole flying experience IMO is not great. A good airport would be one where you pass through with minimum of delay or inconvenience, nothing whatsoever to do with the Architecture. I would rather travel through a dump if my flight was on time, than be delayed for 10 mins in an architectural master piece.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 10:27
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My lasting impression of belfast unfortunately is in the eighties whenever the airport employees had gardens to mantain out the front, you had nice wooden steps up out of the checkin hall and people came to have sunday lunch without security restrictions to enjoy all the comings and goings. It is now just a passing through area for earphone wearing w#####s with their starbucks in their hand, or drunken holiday makers looking for fights.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 10:43
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Originally Posted by Blackfriar View Post
BFS is a bit tired after being denied expenditure while it was up for sale - classic behaviour by seller. It is not, in my experience, "carnage" or a dump. Lo-cos will pay only the minimum so no airbridges or fancy lounges. The market has decided that people will stand in the rain, put up with minimal facilities and pay outrageous amounts for parking to get a cheap flight. At the times I use BFS (0800 arrival and 2100 departure) it works very well. Security is like anywhere else (and miles better than BRS was a couple of years ago when it had huge delays). The rest is just a big shed with food and drink outlets. A bit like Waterloo or Paddington stations which are nothing special either.

It could definitely do with a spuce up but with such low landing fees as demanded by locos there is limited budget for any massive development. That is the nature of 21st Century flying. If you gave people the choice of fewer flights, higher fares and a nicer terminal they would tell you where to go.
If you want a shiny status symbol, the government or somebody else needs to pay for it, but it's not a dump and not carnage. running it down doesn't help, how about some creative solutions to making improvements without simply demanding other people spend money?
Most sensible post I've seen on here in a long time. It's an airport folks.... not a Dubai Shopping mal. Its appearance for travellers inbound and outbound has much less impact than some on here seem to think.
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