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Kharkiv
To me a 3x weekly route from Luton to somewhere like Kharkiv is a bit of a jaw dropper. Eastern Ukraine near the Russian border, not that far from the region with a frozen conflict. Very few Brits will be going there either as tourists, for business or visiting friends / relatives. Ukrainian / Russian citizens generally don't have residency or employment rights in the UK. Furthermore eastern Ukraine tends to be much more pro-Russia compared to the pro-EU west of Ukraine
Yes I know there was a Luton-Donetsk route around 2012 but it didn't last long - the fighting around Donetsk and destruction of Donetsk airport didn't exactly help. Yes I know Wizz already fly from Kharkiv to Dortmund and Katowice. But all the same the announcement of the route still amazes me
Yes I know there was a Luton-Donetsk route around 2012 but it didn't last long - the fighting around Donetsk and destruction of Donetsk airport didn't exactly help. Yes I know Wizz already fly from Kharkiv to Dortmund and Katowice. But all the same the announcement of the route still amazes me
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Russian citizens generally don't have residency or employment rights in the UK.
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Watching the routings being taken by Wizz and Ryanair this morning some coming over the KENT coast and others coming over Norfolk. Must say hats off to all at NATS but of course we had the moaners on aircraft complaining about the delays outbound. I see the little Englanders are out in force again!
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The reason why there might seem to be many Brazilian and Colombian people here is because many of them have Portuguese and Spanish passports respectively. Although, frankly, there are not THAT many of them and I live near one of the major Brazilian and Colombian areas of London.
As to the "whole of Africa" being here. Just nonsense
As to the "whole of Africa" being here. Just nonsense
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And so long as there are lots of jobs that British people don't want to do, we will continue to need to bring in people from elsewhere, particularly from countries whose economies we have helped to ruin, whether by climate change or by the supply of arms.
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Does Luton have terminal stands that can now even handle B777s or 787s? My son used to work for a handling agent and they were told that since the stands were remarked to squeeze more stands in those passengers would have to be bussed. I thought it was nonsense but since then ElAl haven’t put anything bigger than a 767 through Luton.
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This Google Earth image shows the remarked stands, although the 767 image has been superimposed for reasons which only Google can answer (it appears on their historical images as well, going back as far as 1945 
). Stand 42 is the normal spot for the 767-300 (180ft 5ins long), stand 42R is left of 42 in the picture with the forward stop bar and was intended for 777-200's (209ft 1ins long). There was an unsubstantiated rumour it wasn't long enough and, as LTNman says, El Al haven't sent us a 777 since October, although IIRC the stands were already marked before then. As for the 787-8 (length 186ft 1in), I don't believe it has been parked on a terminal contact stand yet and the only commercial flights I know of so far have been parked on the south apron. Wingspan shouldn't be an issue, 2ft 8ins less then the 777-200.
As for Air India operating Amritsar-Luton, well, the statement quoting Luton as the London airport due to a lack of slots at Heathrow seems to have come from a minister of some kind whose knowledge of aircraft performance from short runways, not to mention the suitability of the planned destination airport, is probably nil. Dream on.
). Stand 42 is the normal spot for the 767-300 (180ft 5ins long), stand 42R is left of 42 in the picture with the forward stop bar and was intended for 777-200's (209ft 1ins long). There was an unsubstantiated rumour it wasn't long enough and, as LTNman says, El Al haven't sent us a 777 since October, although IIRC the stands were already marked before then. As for the 787-8 (length 186ft 1in), I don't believe it has been parked on a terminal contact stand yet and the only commercial flights I know of so far have been parked on the south apron. Wingspan shouldn't be an issue, 2ft 8ins less then the 777-200.As for Air India operating Amritsar-Luton, well, the statement quoting Luton as the London airport due to a lack of slots at Heathrow seems to have come from a minister of some kind whose knowledge of aircraft performance from short runways, not to mention the suitability of the planned destination airport, is probably nil. Dream on.
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Not long enough.
This Google Earth image shows the remarked stands, although the 767 image has been superimposed for reasons which only Google can answer (it appears on their historical images as well, going back as far as 1945 ). Stand 42 is the normal spot for the 767-300 (180ft 5ins long), stand 42R is left of 42 in the picture with the forward stop bar and was intended for 777-200's (209ft 1ins long). There was an unsubstantiated rumour it wasn't long enough and, as LTNman says, El Al haven't sent us a 777 since October, although IIRC the stands were already marked before then. As for the 787-8 (length 186ft 1in), I don't believe it has been parked on a terminal contact stand yet and the only commercial flights I know of so far have been parked on the south apron. Wingspan shouldn't be an issue, 2ft 8ins less then the 777-200.
As for Air India operating Amritsar-Luton, well, the statement quoting Luton as the London airport due to a lack of slots at Heathrow seems to have come from a minister of some kind whose knowledge of aircraft performance from short runways, not to mention the suitability of the planned destination airport, is probably nil. Dream on.
). Stand 42 is the normal spot for the 767-300 (180ft 5ins long), stand 42R is left of 42 in the picture with the forward stop bar and was intended for 777-200's (209ft 1ins long). There was an unsubstantiated rumour it wasn't long enough and, as LTNman says, El Al haven't sent us a 777 since October, although IIRC the stands were already marked before then. As for the 787-8 (length 186ft 1in), I don't believe it has been parked on a terminal contact stand yet and the only commercial flights I know of so far have been parked on the south apron. Wingspan shouldn't be an issue, 2ft 8ins less then the 777-200.As for Air India operating Amritsar-Luton, well, the statement quoting Luton as the London airport due to a lack of slots at Heathrow seems to have come from a minister of some kind whose knowledge of aircraft performance from short runways, not to mention the suitability of the planned destination airport, is probably nil. Dream on.
I recall 2 Boeing 747s parked (at the same time) on that very apron a few years ago for football charters. I further recall a 747 on the south apron and a Antanov 124 also parked on the south apron. Further more there was a Virgin 747 and another 747 that was parked in front of the current Britannia hangar many years ago. In effect most large transports can be accommodated but during quieter periods.
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But, Air India do have unused slots at Heathrow. It was quite publicised a few weeks ago as Jet Airways tried to grab said slots, but Air India insisted they will eventually use them, so Jet lost their application case.
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I recall 2 Boeing 747s parked (at the same time) on that very apron a few years ago for football charters. I further recall a 747 on the south apron and a Antanov 124 also parked on the south apron. Further more there was a Virgin 747 and another 747 that was parked in front of the current Britannia hangar many years ago. In effect most large transports can be accommodated but during quieter periods.
9/3/04, Arsenal-Valencia football match IIRC. More 747 Luton photos on History & Nostalgia:-
tried to put a link in which keeps failing, 747 pictures pages 32-24.
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