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Old 25th Apr 2020, 19:21
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So everywhere is in lockdown and Wizz will fly empty aircraft as they want to lose more money?
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Old 25th Apr 2020, 21:24
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Operation Herd Immunity! 18m and T2 is next, or maybe not!
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Old 25th Apr 2020, 22:57
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I noticed today, this evening around 20:00, the airport <-> parkway shuttle buses are still running, well one vehicle was anyway. Enough airport workers to justify that (i.e. their social distancing )?
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Old 25th Apr 2020, 23:06
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It is run by Thameslink and not the airport so while the trains run so does the bus whether there are passengers or not.
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Old 26th Apr 2020, 00:01
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Just one thought, the current terminal closure NOTAM was set to expire on 1/5 because they knew operations were likely to restart on that date or it was just a date to be reviewed later and an operator has forced it's hand in offering increased services?
We all know there is still a trickle of services to many other COVID-19 hotspots into LHR with seemingly little checks being done at the London end.
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Old 26th Apr 2020, 08:37
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Originally Posted by inOban View Post
Not the only way. Still one train every day.
There might be one train a day but you can only board if you meet the French authorities list of essential travel. By definition anybody travelling through France does not fall into this.
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Old 26th Apr 2020, 08:42
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Originally Posted by Spanish eyes View Post
Some will be tempted to fly whether it is essential or not and almost impossible to detect unlike those that drove to UK holiday homes. These Wizzair flights don't seem to be in the spirit of the lockdown as I doubt many will be carrying repatriating passengers.
I donít disagree with you that some will be tempted to fly. However there are a lot of Spanish & Portuguese stuck in the UK and I am sure that they would love to be at home with their loved ones instead of the UK. For example, have a look at EZY in LTN how many Spanish and Portuguese employees they have. Every time we fly out of LTN there tend to be at least one of the aforementioned nationalities on board. So to say that it will only holidaymakers is not correct.
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Old 26th Apr 2020, 09:04
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However there are a lot of Spanish & Portuguese stuck in the UK and I am sure that they would love to be at home with their loved ones instead of the UK.
Unlikely that those travelling home will be on one way tickets if they have jobs in the UK. We are supposed to avoid seeing family members outside our own households. Now there is talk in the press about a 14 day quarantine period for those entering the UK. No doubt Wizz and the council will hope this won't happen as that will also affect passenger numbers as their motivation for a May 1st opening is money.
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Old 26th Apr 2020, 09:23
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That might be the case LTNman but it is not up to us to decide what is essential travel and what isn’t. In case you haven’t read the news lately even the police is struggling to decide what is essential travel and what isn’t. Lots of cases have been thrown out of court because the judge agreed with the defendant. What might not be essential to you and I might be a life saver to somebody else.

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Old 26th Apr 2020, 09:48
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CEJM agree with your comments. Here in Tenerife we have two elderly but very fit 80 year olds who like to swim twice a day and go for their daily walk, restrictions here prevent those activities, hence they now need the relative freedom back home in England. So it is more essential for them to return than myself. We all have different interpretations of what is essential (personal) travel. No doubt they will be on one of the Wizzair flights very soon.
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Old 26th Apr 2020, 12:09
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Originally Posted by LTNman View Post
It is run by Thameslink and not the airport so while the trains run so does the bus whether there are passengers or not.
Agreed, and I had thought of it is a Thameslink operation.

I had not thought of it being directly part of the train service specification and/or commitments though, but thinking on it now you are probably right.
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Old 26th Apr 2020, 14:42
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Originally Posted by D7666 View Post
Agreed, and I had thought of it is a Thameslink operation.

I had not thought of it being directly part of the train service specification and/or commitments though, but thinking on it now you are probably right.
Luton Airport is part of the national rail network, coded LUA, and can be through ticketed from any other national rail station. Anyone with a valid ticket to LUA turning up at the Parkway has to be carried hence the service still running albeit at the moment 'on demand'.
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Old 26th Apr 2020, 14:58
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Old 26th Apr 2020, 16:41
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Where is you dig up that news storey! Hardly topical and from what I would say us a not very respected rag which just regurgitates crap from other sources to direct you to advert driven web site.
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Old 26th Apr 2020, 17:20
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The story was first published maybe a year ago but has been resurrected and republished. There is a point to the story with falling passenger numbers. Luton got away with building poor overcrowded facilities knowing that airlines had restricted options with other London Airports being at capacity. That situation will have changed. It will be interesting to see who will be the winners and losers.

Years ago Ryanair moved most of its fleet to Stansted. Easyjet opened a base at Gatwick at the expense of Luton. Will we see the same again with Wizz Air?
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Old 26th Apr 2020, 19:28
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Thus the case for T2 to solve overcrowding. Whether it can be financed now is a different storey.
Stansted was very under utilised at the time and a deal by MOL was on the cards. BA all but quit LGW so EZY moved in.
Luton does/did have terminal capacity, what it lacks is runway and overnight capacity. If anyone scales back at Luton, Wizzair will slap it up. They do have plans for LGW and I can see a second Wizzair UK base at some point. Whatever they publicly say, the 321XLRs will be ideal based at LGW.
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Old 26th Apr 2020, 20:15
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Wizzair are slowly building up a presence at Gatwick. If extra slots become available, might they be tempted again to bid for them?
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Old 26th Apr 2020, 20:21
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Thus the case for T2 to solve overcrowding
The locals would disagree. Can’t see the existing terminal reaching capacity again for a while and I can’t see the airport operator paying for its expansion to 19million which was planned.

The Council were struggling to justify the £124m cost for the approach road to T2 which failed to get past the Council’s scrutiny committee, so the money has yet to be secured. With the Council facing ruin in part due to its reliance on its airport and the money it has thrown at it maybe the chickens are coming home to roost regarding LLAL debts and the interest payments due with next to no income. And who does the airport owe money to? Why the council and the best bit is that the Council had to borrow the money themselves.

Coronavirus: Luton Airport woes contribute to £49m council deficit https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...herts-52397213

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Old 27th Apr 2020, 08:24
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From the BBC

Plummeting passenger numbers at Luton Airport are contributing to a £49m shortfall at the council which owns it.
Something fishy going on here. For the financial year ending April 6th the airport passengers figures were up 1.6% compared with last year despite the 56% passenger drop shown in March. It is this financial year the sh!t will hit the fan.
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 11:16
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