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Old 29th May 2019, 19:24
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Originally Posted by LGS6753 View Post
Yes, a B763 and B737.
Yes I did know really, shame no-one ordered fuel!
Both back tomorrow after 11AM then we start to Madrid shuttles.

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Old 29th May 2019, 22:33
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Madrid Flights

Does anyone have a full list of Madrid flights by airline and type of aircraft?

I have seen someone has put a list on the STN forum and think many of us on here would be interested to see the LTN flights.
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Old 30th May 2019, 16:20
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Using the AENA planning tool I can see the following departures from LTN:-

Friday 31st
GNJ57 GAIN JET AVIATION S.A. --:-- - LONDRES /LUTON (LTN) 12:55 - MADRID-BARAJAS ADOLFO SUÁREZ (MAD)
IBE2565. IBERIA --:-- - LONDRES /LUTON (LTN) 21:20 - MADRID-BARAJAS ADOLFO SUÁREZ (MAD)

Saturday 1st
IBE2843 IBERIA --:-- - LONDRES /LUTON (LTN) 11:45 - MADRID-BARAJAS ADOLFO SUÁREZ (MAD)
IBE2895 IBERIA --:-- - LONDRES /LUTON (LTN) 11:55 - MADRID-BARAJAS ADOLFO SUÁREZ (MAD)
IBE2893 IBERIA --:-- - LONDRES /LUTON (LTN) 12:30 - MADRID-BARAJAS ADOLFO SUÁREZ (MAD)
IBE2551 IBERIA --:-- - LONDRES /LUTON (LTN) 14:45 - MADRID-BARAJAS ADOLFO SUÁREZ (MAD)

I did read somewhere there was more than what's above but not seen any confirmation of these.
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Old 1st Jun 2019, 12:57
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I think Luton was 1st or 2nd choice for alot of the planned flights but it just could not handle them all so went from other London airports instead.
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Old 1st Jun 2019, 13:15
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Construction update

This is the third of four sections of the Gateway bridge being lifted onto trusses. Each section then had two dart track bases laid either side which can be seen on two lorries waiting to be lifted.


Photo shows four sections of bridge complete with eight sections track base.


The bridge will have a curve.


It is going to be an interesting day when the completed bridge is transported to site and then lifted into position as both the A1081 and airport spur road will have to be closed. I am also wondering what the complete structure will weigh, how big the cranes will have to be and whether the runway will close for the lift? The completed bridge will be back lit by LED's


Down at Parkway Station the start of the dart trackbed is taking shape either side of a central platform.


At the airport a new temporary walkway to the drop off zone is being installed under the walkway to the car park. The Dart will pass underneath this point.


Work carries on in digging out the dart route. In the background can be seen a lorry carrying parts of the third core of the second multi-story.
Worth remembering that the council is borrowing £225 million to build the dart but hopes to get the new concessionaire to eventually cough up the dosh and pay the council back.

Photos shown are a combination of mine and time lapse photos provided by the contractor.

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Old 1st Jun 2019, 14:26
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#2524...

Altogether all of the traffic at STN is business that LTN could not handle has been alluded to at one time or another here of course.
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Old 1st Jun 2019, 14:53
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I’m guessing the completed road bridge for the train link will be missing the fancy ski jump and lights, otherwise it will affect minima for landing 08 and affect takeoff performance from 26
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Old 1st Jun 2019, 15:35
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Originally Posted by southside bobby View Post
#2524...

Altogether all of the traffic at STN is business that LTN could not handle has been alluded to at one time or another here of course.
Not at all, three I know of, some applied in case LGW refused slots but they got them so never appeared.
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Old 1st Jun 2019, 15:48
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Originally Posted by ESQU View Post
I’m guessing the completed road bridge for the train link will be missing the fancy ski jump and lights, otherwise it will affect minima for landing 08 and affect takeoff performance from 26

I asked that question 2 years ago and was assured it was going in. Looking at the photo of the curved bridge shows some of the brackets to support the angle which is meant to represent flight. Worth remembering that runway 08 only has a part set of approach lights due to the roadway below which makes the bridge even closer.

https://knightarchitects.co.uk/proje...luton-gateway/
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 05:14
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What happened to the summer night time restrictions that were meant to have started on June 1st? No NOTAM, business jets still arriving overnight and 3 Iberia flights were due to come in at 03:05, 03.40 and 04:30 when the airport is meant to have no spare overnight stands and which shouldn't have been allowed.
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 07:14
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According to the latest Private Eye(!), the airport has applied for a temporary (5 year!!) relaxation of the noise limits.

The article makes the link previously made here between the airport owner and the planning authority...
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 08:45
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Originally Posted by LTNman View Post
What happened to the summer night time restrictions that were meant to have started on June 1st? No NOTAM, business jets still arriving overnight and 3 Iberia flights were due to come in at 03:05, 03.40 and 04:30 when the airport is meant to have no spare overnight stands and which shouldn't have been allowed.
Implementation was delayed by one night to allow for the football traffic. Back to normal summer (non)-ops hereon
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 12:09
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Grrr

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According to the latest Private Eye(!), the airport has applied for a temporary (5 year!!) relaxation of the noise limits.

The article makes the link previously made here between the airport owner and the planning authority...
I wonder who has been keeping Private Eye informed?
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 15:45
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The council are not fit or proper to decide any planning application regarding the airport as they have a vested interest. LLAOL seek an exemption and reward for failing to comply with a somewhat relaxed night time limit that was set by the council in the belief that it could not be broken. The question has to be asked has the council prompted LLAOL to put this application in?
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 06:37
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Night time limit

Originally Posted by LTNman View Post
The council are not fit or proper to decide any planning application regarding the airport as they have a vested interest. LLAOL seek an exemption and reward for failing to comply with a somewhat relaxed night time limit that was set by the council in the belief that it could not be broken. The question has to be asked has the council prompted LLAOL to put this application in?
As a resident here in Luton and who pays my community charge, I would have questioned why both the council and or airport operator did not seek to alleviate the many extra flights required to operate between the UK and Madrid knowing that a lot of airports in particular at this part of the country are operating are constrained. Every flight generates money for the economy and you being a Luton resident should know how the airport benefits not just luton residents but equally the surrounding towns. For the record those extra night time flights went un-noticed by us residents living under the flight path here in South Luton. I am convinced you are a Ladican member but yet I assume an employee of the airport. Could that mean there is a conflict of interest there?
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 12:26
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Originally Posted by LTNman View Post
The council are not fit or proper to decide any planning application regarding the airport as they have a vested interest
It’s very common for Councils to determine their own applications as they are the planning authority for that area. This can be anything from a disabled ramp at a library to a new multi-million pound Town Hall. They have to be decided at Committee though rather than by officers which at least gives some transparency and accountability. Of course if something was particularly contentious it’s likely the local MP or other body would request the Secretary of State calls it in.
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 20:23
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1 View Post


They have to be decided at Committee though rather than by officers which at least gives some transparency and accountability. Of course if something was particularly contentious it’s likely the local MP or other body would request the Secretary of State calls it in.


I would suggest that you don't believe for a moment that the planning and development committee members have an open mind before deciding planning applications from LLAL or LLAOL. They are a rubber stamp for council policy and would not vote against their own council.

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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 20:40
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The lovely new road to Century Park, sorry Terminal 2 is an example of self interest and the need to raise the town debt toward £1bn on airport related expenditure!
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 21:35
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Originally Posted by LTNman View Post
I would suggest that you don't believe for a moment that the planning and development committee members have an open mind before deciding planning applications from LLAL or LLAOL. They are a rubber stamp for council policy and would not vote against their own council.
See the last part of my statement. If it’s a stitch-up and something that shouldn’t be allowed it would get called in and determined by the independent Inspectorate (or challenged in the Courts). If it’s something that should be allowed but the Council/Councillors are unreasonably refusing it, it can be appealed to the Inspectorate. So one way or another there *should* be a robust and defendable decision. Whatever it is there will be people that don’t like it, but that doesn’t make it unjust.
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 22:31
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Many applications regarding the council voting on their own LLAL planning applications have been requested to be called in.

According to the local rag Century Park, which is actually about building the roads to terminal 2 was even voted through by a councillor who sits on a management committee of a charity that has received £750,000 from LLAL. Seems he didn’t think he should have declared an interest.


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