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Old 29th Mar 2017, 16:00
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You might have had a different view if these people who acted illegally meant you ended up at East Midlands Airport at around midnight when your car was at Stansted.
Yes, I might.....!!!!

Yes, but they shouldn't be disrupted unnecessarily by people acting illegally. I'm surprised you don't seem to understand that. Neither have you answered the point made by several posters as to why the protest couldn't have been made without breaking the law
If a result can be achieved within the law.....great, but sometimes it is necessary to be willing to break the law.
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So where do you draw the line as you are coming across as an anarchist
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Originally Posted by Planemike
Yes, I might.....!!!!



If a result can be achieved within the law.....great, but sometimes it is necessary to be willing to break the law.
Wonder if they had got shot you would have the same opinion
Is getting shot with in or outside the law of a potential terrorist incident
According to your thoughts it wouldn't matter because sometimes it's necessary to break the law to to get results
Hence break into a restricted area be prepared to be shot simple
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If I was at EGNX instead of EGSS, I would expect a complimentary bus-ride SE towards Essex.
The same firm owns both airports, I believe?
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Originally Posted by LTNman
So where do you draw the line as you are coming across as an anarchist
I can assure you I AM NOT an anarchist, far from it. I believe in up holding the law and have managed to do over 71 years apart from some traffic infringements. However there are circumstances when breaking the law can be justifiable, I have for instanced the suffragette movement and the civil rights movement in the US.

daz211. I am not very keen on shooting people in any circumstances. "Hence break into a restricted area be prepared to be shot simple" Oh yes, suppose someone ends up in that area by mistake, without breaking in. An innocent person could end up dead in your scenario. Can't say it has happened at an airport but it has certainly happened elsewhere and in other similar circumstances.
Why mention terrorism? It has nothing to do with what I was talking about.........

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I don't know what to say . . .
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daz211. I am not very keen on shooting people in any circumstances. "Hence break into a restricted area be prepared to be shot simple" Oh yes, suppose someone ends up in that area by mistake, without breaking in. An innocent person could end up dead in your scenario. Can't say it has happened at an airport but it has certainly happened elsewhere and in other similar circumstances.
Why mention terrorism? It has nothing to do with what I was talking about.........[/QUOTE]

What do you mean it had nothing to do with terrorism it could easily have been we only know after the even it was protesters.
Protesters need to know they have the right to peaceful protest with in the law they also need to know that the first thoughts and response to unlawful access to a major airport will be considered as terror related and I am happy for that to be the case.
Who in the right mind wound think lets break into an airport and not at the same time think no hold on we might cause a major terror alert
I'm sticking to my opinion shoot em all.
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I'm sticking to my opinion shoot em all.
Easy to say.... I reiterate my point, I am not very keen on shooting people in any circumstances. You completely ignore my point about mistaken identity.
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Originally Posted by Planemike
Easy to say.... I reiterate my point, I am not very keen on shooting people in any circumstances. You completely ignore my point about mistaken identity.
If only terrorists had the same mind set as you the world would be a lovely place
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You brought up the subject of terrorists, I was talking about protesters. I take you back the fact the folk at Stansted were protesters.
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Old 30th Mar 2017, 13:02
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shoot first ...ask questions later that's what should happen
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Old 30th Mar 2017, 13:06
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Originally Posted by mikkie4
shoot first ...ask questions later that's what should happen
What a truly ridiculous suggestion. If it is said in jest, it is in poor taste. One can only hope that you or one of yours are not the innocent person shot if such a callous policy were adopted. Think about what you have said before you press the 'send' button

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Originally Posted by Planemike
What a truly ridiculous suggestion. If it is said in jest, it is in poor taste. One can only hope that you are not the innocent person shot if such a callous policy were adopted.
"What a truly ridiculous suggestion" that's what should have been the answer when they all sat round the pallet in the squat they all share when someone suggested let's illegally gain access to a major London transport hub a week after a terrorists struck the heart of London.

Let's just agree to disagree I live in the modern world perhaps you know a different world to the one we are now in.
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Old 30th Mar 2017, 13:34
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daz211............

The ridiculous suggestion did not come from you but from mikkie4. Just wanted him to think about what he had written.

Back to your point about "a different world", not so, there is only one world and we both inhabit it: together with about 7 billion others.
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I thought airport police were armed? if so then why were these complete and utter morons not shot on sight????


As has been said they should all be made to pay back all costs. If you cant afford to pay for your actions then don't commit the crime.
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Oh dear oh dear, if someone breaks the law that is not peaceful in anyway. The law is the law these morons broke the law end of.
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Old 30th Mar 2017, 19:04
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Originally Posted by Planemike
Shooting innocent people is not acceptable in democratic societies. Several 'mistakes' have been made already.


Shooting innocent people is not acceptable, you are correct but the people concerned are not innocent in anyway, they have clearly broken the law and show nothing but contempt for the legal system. Please think about what you are writing before you click post.
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Old 30th Mar 2017, 19:20
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It wasn't even a good cause that the law was broken. Here we have a bunch of weird people that didn't like the idea of failed asylum seekers from Nigeria and Ghana being deported.

Their view seems to be that everyone that makes it here for a touch of the good life should be allowed to stay.
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Old 30th Mar 2017, 20:10
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Originally Posted by rowly6339
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Oh dear oh dear, if someone breaks the law that is not peaceful in anyway. The law is the law these morons broke the law end of.
Why do you need use disparaging names for folk? Of course you can break the law in a peaceful manner.
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Originally Posted by rowly6339
Shooting innocent people is not acceptable, you are correct but the people concerned are not innocent in anyway, they have clearly broken the law and show nothing but contempt for the legal system. Please think about what you are writing before you click post.
Yes, they broke the law, that was their decision. Anyone who protests takes that into account. A protest of this type does not justify being shot, as some writers seem to think is acceptable. A fine, probation or other similar sanction would seem much more reasonable. Yes, did think before pressing the "send" button!!
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