Stansted closed by protesters.
Isn't Mrs Spankfirst a bit long in the tooth for chaining herself to airport equipment?
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Like it or not, airlines have no particular right to make money. The protestors are performing illegal trespass on private property and will be prosecuted for that. End of story. Everyone else ends-up inconvenienced but that's life.
From my perspective their action has already succeeded in that I thought Titan were reasonably moralistic as a company, but it seems they just dance to the money like the rest of them.
From my perspective their action has already succeeded in that I thought Titan were reasonably moralistic as a company, but it seems they just dance to the money like the rest of them.
Peaceful enough to cause disruption, chaos and cost an awful lot of money.
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Seems a little harsh. We live in a democracy where protest is allowed.
I understand the protestors chained themselves to something in a way which, had the authroites tried to free them, the protestors could have brought charges of assault against them.
Personally, I would have thought an angle grinder would have solved the problem.
Personally, I would have thought an angle grinder would have solved the problem.
I happen to be very much in favour of deporting illegals and, if given my licence back and no-one was too worried about safety, I'd volunteer FOC to fly a B747 load anywhere as required by HMG.
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All of these who entered the UK illegally at some point in the past, were being deported after umpteen coats of looking at it followed by many layers of appeals, all of which have failed. Tough. Only in this country would they get so many bites of the cherry.
It matters not the company doing the charter, most have in the past. Nothing moral or immoral at all about that.
Just hoping that the Titan has now got airbourne and enroute to its planned destinations
It matters not the company doing the charter, most have in the past. Nothing moral or immoral at all about that.
Just hoping that the Titan has now got airbourne and enroute to its planned destinations
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I don't know about these protestors but the ones recently at LCY were mainly quite well off virtue signallers. It is time that the airlines/airports start to sue these people causing deliberate disruption for some of the losses they incur. I have nothing against protest - I did enough of it in my student days but deliberately disrupting other peoples' lawful business is unacceptable.
I, like you, am in favour of deporting illegal immigrants but I also believe that people have the right to protest. I might need that freedom one day !!!
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If anything they are annoying and inconveniencing people that may have supported the cause.
In light of the latest terror event in London they are luck they didn't get shot on the spot in fact in my view any trespass or attempted unauthorised access to an airport should been seen as a instant threat and any force should be able to be use.
I don't care if you don't agree they wouldn't try if they knew they would have been shot.
I agree everyone has the right to protest but there is a difference between standing outside the terminal with flags and hand made posters and closing an airport diverting 100s of people costing god knows how much
If anything they are annoying and inconveniencing people that may have supported the cause.
In light of the latest terror event in London they are luck they didn't get shot on the spot in fact in my view any trespass or attempted unauthorised access to an airport should been seen as a instant threat and any force should be able to be use.
I don't care if you don't agree they wouldn't try if they knew they would have been shot.
If anything they are annoying and inconveniencing people that may have supported the cause.
In light of the latest terror event in London they are luck they didn't get shot on the spot in fact in my view any trespass or attempted unauthorised access to an airport should been seen as a instant threat and any force should be able to be use.
I don't care if you don't agree they wouldn't try if they knew they would have been shot.
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Seems a little harsh. We live in a democracy where protest is allowed.
No one has the right to break the law. This is a bunch of anarchists who have no regard for democracy. No doubt any appearing before the courts will be treated leniently by like-minded judges.
No one has the right to break the law. This is a bunch of anarchists who have no regard for democracy. No doubt any appearing before the courts will be treated leniently by like-minded judges.
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[QUOTE=Thaihawk;9723019]Seems a little harsh. We live in a democracy where protest is allowed.
No one has the right to break the law. This is a bunch of anarchists who have no regard for democracy. No doubt any appearing before the courts will be treated leniently by like-minded judges.
No one has the right to break the law. This is a bunch of anarchists who have no regard for democracy. No doubt any appearing before the courts will be treated leniently by like-minded judges.
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What world are you living in ?
Innocent people don't break the law of this land.
If people knew the law was the law and the result was hard they would not do it you me the police the ATC in fact anyone did not know what they were going to do and more to the fact didn't know who they were.
We live in a dangerous changing world and if you do stupid things you should get what's coming.
Harsh I don't think so, ho do these people think they are disrupting innocent people lives diverting flights and cancelling flights
What if it was someone's funeral or wedding or a relative was very sick in hospital and because of these tree huggers innocent people lives were disrupted
Innocent people ?
What world are you living in ?
Innocent people don't break the law of this land.
If people knew the law was the law and the result was hard they would not do it you me the police the ATC in fact anyone did not know what they were going to do and more to the fact didn't know who they were.
We live in a dangerous changing world and if you do stupid things you should get what's coming.
Harsh I don't think so, ho do these people think they are disrupting innocent people lives diverting flights and cancelling flights
What if it was someone's funeral or wedding or a relative was very sick in hospital and because of these tree huggers innocent people lives were disrupted
What world are you living in ?
Innocent people don't break the law of this land.
If people knew the law was the law and the result was hard they would not do it you me the police the ATC in fact anyone did not know what they were going to do and more to the fact didn't know who they were.
We live in a dangerous changing world and if you do stupid things you should get what's coming.
Harsh I don't think so, ho do these people think they are disrupting innocent people lives diverting flights and cancelling flights
What if it was someone's funeral or wedding or a relative was very sick in hospital and because of these tree huggers innocent people lives were disrupted
You ask what world I am living in, this one, just the same as you !!
If you mean by "get what's coming"; shot dead at the whim of a police officer then I do not want it done in my name. We all have the right to protest, if we than go on and choose to break the law that is up to us. I take it you use the term "tree hugger" in a disparaging way....not necessary.
As I pointed out earlier peoples lives can be disrupted by weather conditions and even on occasions "for operational reasons", that covers a multitude of events.
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So what your saying is next time your in an airport and terrorists come along planning mass killing you would rather the police go and talk to them and ask what they are planning on doing and who they are ?
I'm not saying people shouldn't be allowed to protest but at a major transport hub which must be very high on the list of places to attack I would expect to be shot on the spot if I illegally gained access to an fully operational airfield.
Im all for waving flags and banners but there is a right place and a wrong place.
I'm not saying people shouldn't be allowed to protest but at a major transport hub which must be very high on the list of places to attack I would expect to be shot on the spot if I illegally gained access to an fully operational airfield.
Im all for waving flags and banners but there is a right place and a wrong place.
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Planemike wrote
You might have had a different view if these people who acted illegally meant you ended up at East Midlands Airport at around midnight when your car was at Stansted.
I also believe that people have the right to protest.
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Yes, but they shouldn't be disrupted unnecessarily by people acting illegally. I'm surprised you don't seem to understand that. Neither have you answered the point made by several posters as to why the protest couldn't have been made without breaking the law