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Old 18th Jul 2015, 15:18
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With VLM's Saturday schedule consisting of a single WAT-LTN rotation, it would seem perfect opportunity to explore other routes. JER was always a popular route at weekends back on the day. They could easily squeeze in a couple of flights there, something like WAT-LTN-JER-LTN-JER-LTN-WAT.

I wonder if they'll be tempted to try other routes?
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Old 18th Jul 2015, 16:03
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Originally Posted by ericlday
Beating that old Chestnut of yours Ltn - Jer - Ltn
And why not? It could actually work for them
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VLM are recruiting cabin crew for Waterford. Great news for Waterford, hopefully expansion to come
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Old 31st Jul 2015, 18:42
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VLM are recruiting cabin crew for Waterford. Great news for Waterford, hopefully expansion to come
Could be wrong but I was under the impression it was crewed from Belgium so if this is the case a positive development.
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Old 31st Jul 2015, 22:23
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Yeah at the moment it's crewed from Belgium and LCY but they are recruiting now so the cabin crew will be based in Waterford.
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Old 3rd Aug 2015, 21:41
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This doesn't surprise me at all. Their routes out of Antwerp are said to be performing very poorly and labour costs in Belgium are much higher compared to Ireland (pretty much opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to Western European countries).

Pretty common sense really to hire locally in a low cost country when that's where you're doing your best business anyway.
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Old 4th Aug 2015, 08:28
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VLM seem to be setting up their IOM operation today.
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Old 4th Aug 2015, 20:49
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What does their IOM operation entail?
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Vlm is lacking a vision for the company. They are trying 'this and that' but without succes. Although it is pretty hard since their target public are businesspeople which is a more narrow targetpulic than leisure travellers. To be honest, i think their future is very bleak. I would not be surprised if the company is not there anymore in a few years. And i heard that the competitor in antwerp, jetairfly, is doing very well. I feel that VLM should have started these routes much earlier before the arrival of jetairfly. Now it is too late.
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Old 5th Aug 2015, 15:35
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Grrr

How is Jetairfly a competitor? I really don't see how a charter airline for parent Tui competes with a regional scheduled airline at Antwerp?

I personally think that there are other niche routes available from somewhere like Luton.

bmi have done well linking in to Lufthansa as an example with through ticketing. Maybe this is the kind of market that opens possibilities for VLM longer-term espacially as the Fokker 50 fleet will have to be replaced with a new type at some point in the future?
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Jetair is doing scheduled air services out of antwerp as well. Berlin, Malaga... They are not doing only charters nowadays.
Thats what i wanted to say.
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Old 5th Aug 2015, 20:49
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WAT is doing well for VLM esp WAT-LTN but is it enough to keep them going as a company
most of the other routes as said above are doing poor
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More ACMI work for VLM as Air Vallée is leasing a Fokker 50.


Italy's Air Vallée leasing a Belgian Fokker 50 - ch-aviation.com
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Old 14th Aug 2015, 16:42
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WAT is doing well for VLM esp WAT-LTN but is it enough to keep them going as a company
most of the other routes as said above are doing poor
July stats:
LTN - 63.3%
BHX - 56.7%
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Old 15th Aug 2015, 14:30
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Looks like they - quietly - removed their lowest fare category across all routes. Gone are the 'VLM Promo' fares, the cheapest offer is now the 'VLM Essential' tariff. Comes down mostly to a small to rather substantial price hike, depending on the route:

(All fares O/W)
Antwerp - Southampton: 49 Euro -> 54 Euro
Hamburg - Southampton: 126 Euro -> 65 Euro (yes, going down)
Waterford - Birmingham: 49 Euro -> 81 Euro
Waterford - London Luton: 49 Euro -> 83 Euro
Antwerp - Hamburg: 48 Euro -> 63 Euro
Rotterdam - Hamburg: 58 Euro -> 64 Euro
Antwerp - Geneva: 39 Euro -> 55 Euro
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Old 15th Aug 2015, 15:51
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So truing WAT into the company cash cow, it won't end well. In saying that they only had maybe a handful of seats at that price.
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Old 20th Aug 2015, 15:41
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VLM will launch 3x weekly (Mon, Wed, Fri) Antwerp-Birmingham from 5 October.
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 12:02
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Originally Posted by Wingman1000
VLM will launch 3x weekly (Mon, Wed, Fri) Antwerp-Birmingham from 5 October.
I wasn't sure about the commercial rationale for this service, but based on the timings this seems also to be a way of tying the Waterford aircraft/crew into the rest of the network (WAT-BHX also operates Mon/Wed/Fri) which makes some sense (and of course would theoretically allow VLM to sell a WAT-BHX-ANR connection in both directions). Does anyone know how VLM had been rotating the WAT aircraft until now?
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 12:25
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I wasn't sure about the commercial rationale for this service, but based on the timings this seems also to be a way of tying the Waterford aircraft/crew into the rest of the network (WAT-BHX also operates Mon/Wed/Fri) which makes some sense (and of course would theoretically allow VLM to sell a WAT-BHX-ANR connection in both directions). Does anyone know how VLM had been rotating the WAT aircraft until now?
It's more less been the same aircraft since operators commenced, cabin crew will be WAT based in October while flight deck rotate via LCY.

Would expect any aircraft changes to take place on Tuesday/Thursday or Saturday/Sunday from WAT-Antwerp

Guess BHX-Antwerp will give flexibility but you would hope there is commercial reasons behind the service as that flexibility won't keep it operating for long.

Arriving BHX at 12.05 and not departing until 14.30 when WAT arrives at 12.35 and departs at 13.05 (Mon/Wed) so if it was related to simple crew changes Antwerp would depart at the same time. WAT arrives and departs at 14.25/14.55 (Fri/Sun)
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