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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 16:26
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The word on the street is Stobart.......
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 17:19
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Maybe if BB are in such financial state , that they will let the airport go with the land included, I would have thought that if anyone was to take those debts on , they would want the land, if a Stobart consortium , did take it over , you would hope that they would have a management team in there capable of running the place . Fingers crossed for some good news in the up coming weeks and months , hopefully sooner rather than later , before every last nut and bolt get sold off .
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Other than keeping your friends close, and your enemies closer (or wanting a monopoly of airports serving the Lake District), can anybody give a reason as to why Stobart would be interested?
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Other than keeping your friends close, and your enemies closer (or wanting a
monopoly of airports serving the Lake District), can anybody give a reason as to
why Stobart would be interested?
I reckon (IF) anyone buys Blackpool Airport it would be Jet2/Dart. LS knows what is going on at BLK, and they also know they made money. They would wait until the very last moment to get the airport for a song.

I would not hold my breath that anyone would be interested.
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 19:48
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can anybody give a reason as to why Stobart would be interested
Well apart from the much longer runway than Carlisle that can handle jet aircraft of a reasonable size (B757, B738) and as it has a history of handling them there is less likely to be the opposition seen at Carlisle
Much closer to a major population centre
Closer to their major hub at Warrington
Closer by a bit to other transport routes

Oh and longer declared runway distances than Carlisle & Southend

Nope!
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 20:45
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I've been following with trepidation the Evening Gazette's reply thread to their 'Airport's Failure Cost 21m' feature.

'FreddiePug' is adamant that an American charter company, Vision Airlines, are showing a keen and potential interest in our airfield.

Read the Gazette's Website & Enjoy...or Cry...!!

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Well apart from the much longer runway than Carlisle that can handle jet aircraft of a reasonable size (B757, B738) and as it has a history of handling them there is less likely to be the opposition seen at Carlisle
Much closer to a major population centre
Closer to their major hub at Warrington
Closer by a bit to other transport routes

Oh and longer declared runway distances than Carlisle & Southend
But they already own CAX, have spent a shedload of money on it and have planning permission for their freight depot

Oh, and your assuming they want CAX as an airport - why do they want/need an airport at Blackpool?
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'FreddiePug' is adamant that an American charter company, Vision Airlines, are showing a keen and potential interest in our airfield.
Looks an odd one - pleasure flights up and down the Golden Mile?
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From what I have heard the licence is held by a management company RCAM and not the operating company that has just gone out of business. Key management such as the airport director and the SATCO transferred to RCAM before the closure.
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MPs have today warned liquidators in charge of Blackpool Airport Ltd not
to sell off vital equipment needed to run the terminal.





Their pleas came as Zolfo Cooper, which was called in earlier this month to
deal with the huge 21m debts of the failed company, revealed it was preparing
to sell and auction off assets from the site.


Employees have been at the Squires Gate site to value and catalogue items
which can be sold to raise money to pay creditors, the largest of whom are owner
Balfour Beatty’s companies, but who also comprise non-secured creditors who are
owed 2m.


A spokesman for Manchester and London-based Zolfo said: “We don’t have a date
yet, but it is planned to auction the non-airside assets before Christmas and
the airside 
assets after Christmas.”
I think the run up to when the airport closed - we were fed crap. I don't believe a buyer was possible from just August.

Thinking back BB drove off FR and did their best to put of Jet2 with their early closing hours. I reckon they took our 10 ADF cash maybe with no intention of developing the airport. Look how soon they are trying to level the land.

http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/ne...sets-1-6914990
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The communications I have seen indicate that Blackpool may open in the very short term for traffic up to and including executive jet size. Beyond that, there doesn't appear to be a definitive plan. That would tend to indicate a sell off of fixtures and fittings from the terminal but not from the runway, control tower etc.
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With or Without BB the Show is Still Going On with numerous GA movements including Bond choppers.

Keep up the good work lads! Show 'em who#s really Boss...!

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Well if you believe the gazette then looks like you have until Xmas for flying before they start flogging the airside equipment , I'd imagine the new year will be when everything will come to an end, with latter end of 2015/ early 2016 being announce albeit no doubt quietly planning permission being sort for a variety of building houses retail and office space , the usual stuff, ... As seeing since it's closed , the only mention of buyers gave been on here or on the comments section of the gazette , there's not been any media reports of anyone interested in it . Of course I would hope to be wrong
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'Ere we go. This is the Start of it...

Expanding firms land at resort airport site - Blackpool Gazette



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i work in the next block up from here,its nothing to do with the airport closure
that unit has been empty for years,ROC built them about 6 years ago
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We'll probably not of interest , but BLK has dissappeared off FR24 , sign of things to come looked very very quite and desolate this afternoon
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We'll probably not of interest , but BLK has dissappeared off FR24
Not6 surprising with no activity. BB and LS are both to blame. BB just not up to aviation and Jet2 just to inflexible.

Council no better - They had no foresight.

I know one thing. I got back to MAN today and the walk from the jet to security was not good.

I have heard people say security at BLK was a joke - No joke at MAN, long queues and lots of rope made for a long while to get through security. officially a 25 minute queue.

Can't be doing with that, going to have a look at Liverpool - there was a niche at Blackpool, it never was exploited,
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Yes Ernie - whoever sold the airport to a property developer is to blame p, not Jet2. BLK may have had a niche and if I lived in BLK the idea of being able to escape the place at a nearby aerodrome would have appealed but it's gone and ain't coming back no matter how much you diss the other nearby airports and compare them to your former local aerodrome.
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There is no security on arriving at MAN or LPL (or the former BLK).

I
suspect you are referring to Border Control.
If so, this is not within the
gift of the authorities at Manchester Airport to fix, as it is a (ahem) service
provided by the Border Force, as they now call themselves.
All names taken.

You are playing with words. it amounts to the same thing. It may be called "Border Force" but it is part od airport security.

As I said I had to take off my glasses as the passport is out next year, had my face not fit - I would have been detained.

Whatever it is called, it took a long while, longer than Blackpool or Liverpool or even MAN in the past.

OK lets do it your way - "Border Force" was long winded at MAN and 18 months ago baggage handlers also was long winded to the tune of two hours.
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Originally Posted by fa2fi

whoever sold the airport to a property developer is to blame p, not Jet2. BLK
may have had a niche and if I lived in BLK the idea of being able to escape the
place at a nearby aerodrome would have appealed but it's gone and ain't coming
back no matter how much you diss the other nearby airports and compare them to
your former local aerodrome.
I never have once said there is a chance Blackpool will re-open. quite the opposite if you have read my posts. I don't think there is a chance.

I first mentioned the long wait at MAN for baggage long before BLK was even in any known danger of closing.

My sole point in mentioning yesterday at MAN. was just a comparison showing how easy BLK WAS compared to MAN .

Might surprise you to know, I live nearer to MAN than BLK, and about the same distance as Liverpool.

I don't live in Blackpool so no need to escape - you see I am a neutral who knew a god thing, while it was there.

BTW - I did mention in lots of posts that Blackpool council did not help and YES the airport should not have been sold to BB. I never have said otherwise.

One last point - Being Blackpool/Manchester and Liverpool are all bar a few miles the same distance from my town. I have no "local aerodrome." Not even "former" - So that probably gives me more right to compare.
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