SOUTHEND 5
The 12 announced routes will take up almost all of the capacity of two aircraft with just a few weekly unused slots available at present. With talk of a possible double-daily SEN-MAN route maybe there will be a third aircraft involved. That would obviously allow other additional routes to be launched.
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Essex
Posts: 1,232
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
So many questions for me after Expressflight's and AirportPlanner1's posts. Is SEN-MAN a runner, or just a rumor? Are easyjet's winter ski routes considered successful enough that Stobart see potential there? And surely they won't go headlong into a third aircraft until: One; they've been convinced that early sales on the 12 routes suggest that 2 aircraft will be economically utilised and Two; They are satisfied that their recruitment has proved / will prove successful. Can't be easy recruiting experienced crew, particularly Captains, to a ambitious but unproven operation.
Still hoping for some marketing. Would also like to see more effort on their website and social media. A certain man across the pond proved anything is possible for those who understand the power of the internet.
Still hoping for some marketing. Would also like to see more effort on their website and social media. A certain man across the pond proved anything is possible for those who understand the power of the internet.
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: The North
Posts: 158
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
SEN-MAN could prove very successful if planned right.
It would allow SEN pax to connect to their BE flights ex MAN (INV/ABZ/GLA/BHD/IOM/EDI) amongst others.
Furthermore Flybe interline with MT at MAN allowing SEN pax to fly to SFO/BOS/JFK/LAX/MCO/MIA/LAS without seeing their bags.
Flybe also codeshare with EK/EY/SQ & CX from MAN so you never know...
It would allow SEN pax to connect to their BE flights ex MAN (INV/ABZ/GLA/BHD/IOM/EDI) amongst others.
Furthermore Flybe interline with MT at MAN allowing SEN pax to fly to SFO/BOS/JFK/LAX/MCO/MIA/LAS without seeing their bags.
Flybe also codeshare with EK/EY/SQ & CX from MAN so you never know...
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Essex
Posts: 1,232
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
That's really interesting CCGE29. Certainly it could make sense, it's easier to fly SEN-MAN to connect than take a train and cheaper probably, but LGW and LHR are not far and as LTNman has pointed out from Dec 2019 Crossrail will offer a simple (if not that swift) connection to our main hub which will also be relatively cheap.
I think the pros and cons of SEN-MAN are balanced and there could be the problem. People don't change from the tried and trusted unless there is sufficient incentive to tempt them.
I think the pros and cons of SEN-MAN are balanced and there could be the problem. People don't change from the tried and trusted unless there is sufficient incentive to tempt them.
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Essex
Posts: 1,232
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hedging bets. ROI will remain in EU. It's just a way of ensuring that any pilot from EU can be ensured that as a employee of an Irish company he/she will be free to work in UK. Well that's my take on it. My friends on the European mainland believe it would be a risk to move and perhaps buy property in UK just now. And Stobart can't wait for those applicants who want to wait for the Brexit negotiations to spell out their rights.
Hedging bets. ROI will remain in EU. It's just a way of ensuring that any pilot from EU can be ensured that as a employee of an Irish company he/she will be free to work in UK.
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: UK
Posts: 117
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
When the WX deal was on the table, there was talk of the SSJs taking over a number of the EIR routes too.
I do not find it in the least surprising that STK are proposing an E195 base at DUB - it is after all their main base. I would have thought E195s at DUB would be deployed on the stronger of their existing EIR routes, i.e those most likely to support an aircraft bigger than the ATR.
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Essex
Posts: 800
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Thanks for the responses. With a DUB based aircraft, they could relaunch DUB-SEN with a similar schedule to what they had before (EIR or BE). Flight times would be quicker and a higher capacity on an E195, so it could be worth another go. It will be interesting to see what develops.
Last edited by tws123; 5th Feb 2017 at 16:33.
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Leeds, UK & Cork, Ireland
Posts: 1,080
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Stobart could operate SEN, but is there any appetite for this at either EI or BE. IE have good coverage of London at LGW and LHR, in addition they have a codeshare on BA to LCY. What would SEN really add to their network at this stage?
If it is at Stobarts own risk, neither airline would likely give a fiddlers, but EI might be concerned about diluting revenue out of London.
If it is at Stobarts own risk, neither airline would likely give a fiddlers, but EI might be concerned about diluting revenue out of London.
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Essex
Posts: 1,109
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
SEN receiving a useful number of LCY diversions recently; 7 yesterday and now 5 today. It's that icing problem again for the flyBE Dash 8s this evening. Yesterdayw as due to the low cloud base.
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Essex
Posts: 1,109
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well, a sixth has come now. Two from Edinburgh, two from Belfast, one from Exeter and one from Cardiff. Who says SEN can't support domestic flights?
We can if they are seeking a runway for diversion.......
We can if they are seeking a runway for diversion.......