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Old 31st Jan 2015, 01:32
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Originally Posted by Mike Tee
Let me try and explain. I haven,t quite reached the 74 years living next to the airport which you deem necessary to be able to be form an opinion regarding what I and many others find to be an annoying intrusion to our quality of life. I "have" lived next to the airport for well over fifty years and in all that time the only other reason we have had cause to complain was when the Police operated the "Islander" with it's very noisy piston engines. Lots of us where regularly woken in the dead of night by that aircraft droning around at low level, flaps deployed and high power settings. Thankfully that is a thing of the past. The "normal" airport movements of departures, arrivals and circuit training of all types from club light aircraft to passenger jet transports are not a problem as their noise "footprint" and duration is generally quite short.
I'm sorry an airport is there to serve aircraft of all shapes and sizes, noisy or quiet it doesn't matter, like I said, unless people have lived there for over 74 years the airport was there first and therefore has 'right of way', surely when you bought the house you did so knowing that noise would be a factor? I'm sorry but as far as I can see local residents of any airport do not and should not have a leg to stand on.

The Para Drop aircraft operation can in no way be described as normal for an operational "Airport" and is more suited to a rural flying club. The aircraft used is noted as being particularly noisy and the practice of climbing to "drop height" in the overhead before a rapid descent, re-load and repeat the process is intrusive and annoying.
Wrong, there's nothing that states an International or Regional airport cannot branch out into all forms of aviation, I even recall there's a Heathrow-sized airport somewhere in the world that has such traffic, albeit with a separate mini-runway in a very remote corner.

Originally Posted by Highwideandugly
It seems to me that Peel are trying very hard to give the impression that they actually care about the airport...without actually doing much at all and certainly not putting their hand in their pocket!

New Ga policy
Para school
Microlight training
A master plan

Not much input Methinks and certainly not much income.
The new GA policy is working, if they didn't care about the airport why release a master plan at all? And don't say to make it look like they care because a company like Peel do not give a monkeys about appearances, others have said it before if they wanted the place shut they would have years ago.

If you're going to criticise, take a leaf out of SWBKCBs book - he tries to see both sides instead of attacking the airport at every opportunity.

This is a harsh attitude to take, but by the time any house hunter looks at buying a new house near the terminal, the money from the housing land will already be in the airports coffers, therefore the airport do not need to care and can focus on the rest of the master plan.

The likes of Skydiving and Microlights may not bring in very much money, but the more companies that start-up/move in it will soon build up, and if they keep attracting companies at the rate they have been, it won't be long before they've got a good bit of rent pouring in.

Originally Posted by Beafer
As its been said before
Yeah - mostly by you
Originally Posted by Beafer
The 250 acres which Peel got for nothing
One acre for every time you've mentioned it, your repetitiveness certainly gives several on here a head-acre
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 11:34
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Well said No-More-Bullschit!

Someone mentioned Gloucester, they're where they are today largely thanks to building a housing estate!
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 11:56
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Housing estate at Staverton? Do you mean industrial estate?
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Old 5th Feb 2015, 11:37
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The CAA list of UK airports who charge fee's for passing through.

Only Peel could charge for a 3 year old to pass through the airport.

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Old 5th Feb 2015, 12:08
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Beafer, on the bright side, 2 bags for 1 at MME, 1 bag for 1 at NCL
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Old 9th Feb 2015, 22:53
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There is the same comment on the Eastern thread, is there such a thing as a forum bug?

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Old 10th Feb 2015, 20:04
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The link between Beefer's posts and DTVA become ever more tenuous...
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Old 10th Feb 2015, 20:16
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Think he needs to get out with the dogs a bit more!
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Old 13th Feb 2015, 14:26
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Note to managment

If the people of Coventry don't want this it should fit nicely on our Southside.

Plan for 10,000 new jobs in Coventry BLOCKED by government - Coventry Telegraph
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Old 13th Feb 2015, 15:35
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I see the road down by Skydive St George and DTFT has been resurfaced, I wonder if this is related to the new south-side road as doesn't this section form part of it?
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Old 16th Feb 2015, 15:07
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Thumbs down Latest figures

I know we have "agreed". Not to put too much emphasis on passenger figures as the new Master Plan comes to fruition(sic)...however January's figures are truly appalling....down another 10% on already rock bottom statistics.

Ok guys waiting for the chink of light.
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Old 16th Feb 2015, 15:13
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Exclamation another fact

I am nearly speechless but ..that equates to 159. Yes. 159 departing passengers per day using the airport.

We all live in hope but dear me !!!!!!
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Old 16th Feb 2015, 16:46
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Aberdeen down 14%
Amsterdam down 5%
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Old 17th Feb 2015, 19:29
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Whilst I am sure the weather had an impact in January v last year, more worryingly we shouldn't underestimate the effect the collapse in oil price will have on these routes. Aberdeen is all about O and G and is suffering quite badly now with contractors losing their jobs and companies reducing their spend. KLM is a little more diverse but still relies on oil workers travelling out to projects around the world. Be interesting to see how these figures play out over the coming months........
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Old 17th Feb 2015, 20:42
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Newcastle was also down 14% on the Aberdeen route but Amsterdam was up 2% - MME did suffer with at least one non weather cancellation by KLM (which I was booked on) plus I am not sure if the weather was a casualty.

Flew from this airport on Friday and what a good experience it is turning up at 5:15 in the morning with plenty of time to catch a 6am flight. Sure the facilities are not at the standard of larger airports but a short check in time is more important for me than a duty free shop or bar. The airport should make much more of this advantage in their marketing as LCY do.
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Old 19th Feb 2015, 17:06
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Can you believe anything that any M.P says, especially Labour?

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Old 19th Feb 2015, 17:33
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What do you want him to do? Say 'We'll let Newcastle represent us on the Transport for the North board, and I don't give a toss about the airport.'
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Old 20th Feb 2015, 17:34
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More Bad News

It just gets worse for DTV
Tees Valley Helicopter base to close | Tyne Tees - ITV News
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Old 20th Feb 2015, 18:05
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The best outcome for DTV would be sustainable development for the future:

Aeropark...tick...flying training... tick... limited housing (associated with aeropark perhaps)...tick...new technology and associated employment...tick....specialist industries...tick. Housing estates...cross....storage depot....cross.....retail park....cross...car manufacturing plant....probably cross (got one of those at former very nice a/f up the road)

Tees side flying club started my flying career over 35 years ago.

But the fact is that even then the local authorities were squabbling over who owned and was responsible for what. It was 'dead in the water' then and with ICI, BMA history, electrification of East Coast rail...it still is now. The region cannot support two international airports.

Time to stop dreaming,accept it and move forward.

Tin hat on...

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Old 20th Feb 2015, 18:47
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departure of Police helicopter

Maybe not all bad news? No noise for the new housing to contend with?

Downside is loss of rental which must be quite substantial.

Effect on movements...not real important?

Another aviation activity gone however.
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