DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 6
I've obviously not made myself clear, so I’ll explain again.
My problem is not with increasing activity at DTVA and have said a number of times that the airport needs to diversify and attract other, preferably aviation related business - think Kemble, Staverton, Hurn, Norwich.
I also agree that anybody who buys a house near an airport deserves everything they get.
However that isn’t the case here – we’re not talking about existing householders, but about selling houses that haven’t yet been built.
Here’s how it might pan out
House Buyer: “what’s that noise?”
Estate Agent: “that’s just the parachute dropping/microlight training aircraft”
House Buyer: “Oh, and how often do they fly?”
Estate Agent: “Only on nice day’s at the weekend and the odd summer evening”
House Buyer: “So just when I want to be outside in my nice new garden?”
Now, will their response be option 1, “Oh good, where’s my Binoculars?” or Option 2 – “Thank you, but where’s next on my list?”
Again, and keeping it simple, a large part of the Peel Masterplan rests on selling land near the terminal for housing, and using the profit from that to fund the other areas of the plan.
Another part of the plan is diversifying the aviation activities at the airport and this they’ve done with the Parachuting and now the microlights – as others have said, that these can hardly be major money makers, can't have cost a lot to bring in and might well have an impact on the sale of the land which then impacts on the rest of the plan. Just looks a bit odd.
You can be sure developers will be using it to knock down the price Peel get, as they'll be saying it might put off future house buyers
My problem is not with increasing activity at DTVA and have said a number of times that the airport needs to diversify and attract other, preferably aviation related business - think Kemble, Staverton, Hurn, Norwich.
I also agree that anybody who buys a house near an airport deserves everything they get.
However that isn’t the case here – we’re not talking about existing householders, but about selling houses that haven’t yet been built.
Here’s how it might pan out
House Buyer: “what’s that noise?”
Estate Agent: “that’s just the parachute dropping/microlight training aircraft”
House Buyer: “Oh, and how often do they fly?”
Estate Agent: “Only on nice day’s at the weekend and the odd summer evening”
House Buyer: “So just when I want to be outside in my nice new garden?”
Now, will their response be option 1, “Oh good, where’s my Binoculars?” or Option 2 – “Thank you, but where’s next on my list?”
Again, and keeping it simple, a large part of the Peel Masterplan rests on selling land near the terminal for housing, and using the profit from that to fund the other areas of the plan.
Another part of the plan is diversifying the aviation activities at the airport and this they’ve done with the Parachuting and now the microlights – as others have said, that these can hardly be major money makers, can't have cost a lot to bring in and might well have an impact on the sale of the land which then impacts on the rest of the plan. Just looks a bit odd.
You can be sure developers will be using it to knock down the price Peel get, as they'll be saying it might put off future house buyers
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Originally Posted by Mike Tee
Let me try and explain. I haven,t quite reached the 74 years living next to the airport which you deem necessary to be able to be form an opinion regarding what I and many others find to be an annoying intrusion to our quality of life. I "have" lived next to the airport for well over fifty years and in all that time the only other reason we have had cause to complain was when the Police operated the "Islander" with it's very noisy piston engines. Lots of us where regularly woken in the dead of night by that aircraft droning around at low level, flaps deployed and high power settings. Thankfully that is a thing of the past. The "normal" airport movements of departures, arrivals and circuit training of all types from club light aircraft to passenger jet transports are not a problem as their noise "footprint" and duration is generally quite short.
The Para Drop aircraft operation can in no way be described as normal for an operational "Airport" and is more suited to a rural flying club. The aircraft used is noted as being particularly noisy and the practice of climbing to "drop height" in the overhead before a rapid descent, re-load and repeat the process is intrusive and annoying.
Originally Posted by Highwideandugly
It seems to me that Peel are trying very hard to give the impression that they actually care about the airport...without actually doing much at all and certainly not putting their hand in their pocket!
New Ga policy
Para school
Microlight training
A master plan
Not much input Methinks and certainly not much income.
New Ga policy
Para school
Microlight training
A master plan
Not much input Methinks and certainly not much income.
If you're going to criticise, take a leaf out of SWBKCBs book - he tries to see both sides instead of attacking the airport at every opportunity.
This is a harsh attitude to take, but by the time any house hunter looks at buying a new house near the terminal, the money from the housing land will already be in the airports coffers, therefore the airport do not need to care and can focus on the rest of the master plan.
The likes of Skydiving and Microlights may not bring in very much money, but the more companies that start-up/move in it will soon build up, and if they keep attracting companies at the rate they have been, it won't be long before they've got a good bit of rent pouring in.
Originally Posted by Beafer
As its been said before
Originally Posted by Beafer
The 250 acres which Peel got for nothing
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The CAA list of UK airports who charge fee's for passing through.
Only Peel could charge for a 3 year old to pass through the airport.
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/2200/Airport_Charges.pdf
Only Peel could charge for a 3 year old to pass through the airport.
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/2200/Airport_Charges.pdf
Note to managment
If the people of Coventry don't want this it should fit nicely on our Southside.
Plan for 10,000 new jobs in Coventry BLOCKED by government - Coventry Telegraph
Plan for 10,000 new jobs in Coventry BLOCKED by government - Coventry Telegraph
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I see the road down by Skydive St George and DTFT has been resurfaced, I wonder if this is related to the new south-side road as doesn't this section form part of it?
Latest figures
I know we have "agreed". Not to put too much emphasis on passenger figures as the new Master Plan comes to fruition(sic)...however January's figures are truly appalling....down another 10% on already rock bottom statistics.
Ok guys waiting for the chink of light.
Ok guys waiting for the chink of light.
another fact
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Whilst I am sure the weather had an impact in January v last year, more worryingly we shouldn't underestimate the effect the collapse in oil price will have on these routes. Aberdeen is all about O and G and is suffering quite badly now with contractors losing their jobs and companies reducing their spend. KLM is a little more diverse but still relies on oil workers travelling out to projects around the world. Be interesting to see how these figures play out over the coming months........
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Newcastle was also down 14% on the Aberdeen route but Amsterdam was up 2% - MME did suffer with at least one non weather cancellation by KLM (which I was booked on) plus I am not sure if the weather was a casualty.
Flew from this airport on Friday and what a good experience it is turning up at 5:15 in the morning with plenty of time to catch a 6am flight. Sure the facilities are not at the standard of larger airports but a short check in time is more important for me than a duty free shop or bar. The airport should make much more of this advantage in their marketing as LCY do.
Flew from this airport on Friday and what a good experience it is turning up at 5:15 in the morning with plenty of time to catch a 6am flight. Sure the facilities are not at the standard of larger airports but a short check in time is more important for me than a duty free shop or bar. The airport should make much more of this advantage in their marketing as LCY do.
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More Bad News
It just gets worse for DTV
Tees Valley Helicopter base to close | Tyne Tees - ITV News
Tees Valley Helicopter base to close | Tyne Tees - ITV News
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The best outcome for DTV would be sustainable development for the future:
Aeropark...tick...flying training... tick... limited housing (associated with aeropark perhaps)...tick...new technology and associated employment...tick....specialist industries...tick. Housing estates...cross....storage depot....cross.....retail park....cross...car manufacturing plant....probably cross (got one of those at former very nice a/f up the road)
Tees side flying club started my flying career over 35 years ago.
But the fact is that even then the local authorities were squabbling over who owned and was responsible for what. It was 'dead in the water' then and with ICI, BMA history, electrification of East Coast rail...it still is now. The region cannot support two international airports.
Time to stop dreaming,accept it and move forward.
Tin hat on...
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Aeropark...tick...flying training... tick... limited housing (associated with aeropark perhaps)...tick...new technology and associated employment...tick....specialist industries...tick. Housing estates...cross....storage depot....cross.....retail park....cross...car manufacturing plant....probably cross (got one of those at former very nice a/f up the road)
Tees side flying club started my flying career over 35 years ago.
But the fact is that even then the local authorities were squabbling over who owned and was responsible for what. It was 'dead in the water' then and with ICI, BMA history, electrification of East Coast rail...it still is now. The region cannot support two international airports.
Time to stop dreaming,accept it and move forward.
Tin hat on...
Binder