Flights over war zones...question.
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EK77 no problem,i agree about Paris, surprised to see that there are restrictions on helicopters as well!
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There is john hill, but it is a bit confusing, and I couldn't find any sort of graphical map. Thats what we need, with some sort of key marking out reserved areas for civil aircraft.
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787Luton, as far as I see it NOTAMs are issued by countries relating to their airspace and it would require another stage of processing to put them all on a map.
I suppose if you had an automated flight planning and briefing system you could make briefing requests from Everywhere to Everywhere Else!
I suppose if you had an automated flight planning and briefing system you could make briefing requests from Everywhere to Everywhere Else!
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Lost count over the number of times I have been over Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan on commercial flights over the years, but as has been said at FL 35 you are out of reach from the guys with AK 47, RPG et al , so no issue. As an observation I have noticed how many more street lights or just housing lights there now are in Afghanistan compared with trips in that area previously - progress one presumes perhaps 
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Well I cant say for sure if FL35 would put you out of range of an AK47 but I am fairly sure FL350 would.
However, airlines flew over Afghanistan while the Taleban were fighting the Northern Alliance and they both had MIG-21s.
North Korea also have something of an airforce and don't airlines fly over there too?
However, airlines flew over Afghanistan while the Taleban were fighting the Northern Alliance and they both had MIG-21s.
North Korea also have something of an airforce and don't airlines fly over there too?
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Not sure what if anything flies over N Korea nowadays other than Air Koryo? As you approach the FIR boundary, there is a patriotic announcement and (more) martial music is played!
Incheon in S Korea is only a few miles south of the border and traffic patterns are severely constrained as nothing can enter the buffer zone. The airport has 3 parallel runways; two are closely spaced and operate in segregated mode, the other is independent and used for mixed mode ops. Due to the constraints on airspace however, this combination only has a capacity of around 63 movements per hour when you would expect it to be much higher without the airspace restrictions.
Incheon in S Korea is only a few miles south of the border and traffic patterns are severely constrained as nothing can enter the buffer zone. The airport has 3 parallel runways; two are closely spaced and operate in segregated mode, the other is independent and used for mixed mode ops. Due to the constraints on airspace however, this combination only has a capacity of around 63 movements per hour when you would expect it to be much higher without the airspace restrictions.
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Considering that they seem to always keep the air traffic control communications link open during the annual war games and jingoistic sabre rattling festivals I strongly suspect they consider the airspace open for business.
There is a bit of background information here North and South Korea Air traffic control link left in place after military hotline died North ... which refers to the project I was involved in last century.
It must be a strong argument for airlines to divert around the country if they dont have to.
There is a bit of background information here North and South Korea Air traffic control link left in place after military hotline died North ... which refers to the project I was involved in last century.
It must be a strong argument for airlines to divert around the country if they dont have to.
