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Old 16th Jan 2017, 18:51
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Thank you and it is just one of the many vagaries of the CAA figures, some months Delhi and Amritsar are sometimes shown as all Delhi and other months they give the split (Not as bad as counting every Thomas Cook pax as scheduled).

November 2015 was 12170 pax and the combined figure posted by BHX5DME for 2016 was 13486. Therefore an increase of around 11.5% averaging of 225 pax or 88%.

Now I don't for one minute regard AI as a normal commercial operation but you still have to get bums on seats and it was in a month when Emirates cut EK41/2 which of course might have boosted AI as that flight does have superb connections to India. It did drop in December to 85% load factor but the figure was actually up 12.5%



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Old 20th Jan 2017, 18:51
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Norwegian mentioing BHX again

Norwegian Air Shuttle ASA hopes to sell one-way tickets to Europe for $69 as early as 2017 by flying from US airports that have low fees, Chief Executive Officer Bjørn Kjos said in an interview last year.
Europe’s third-largest budget airline is considering flights to Edinburgh and Bergen, Norway from US airports that have little to no international service today, such as New York’s Westchester County Airport and Connecticut’s Bradley International Airport, just north of Hartford, Kjos said.
Average prices on such routes are likely to be closer to $300 round trip, Kjos said, compared with many of Norwegian’s fares that run more than $500 today because of higher fees levied by busier airports.
The potential plans are part of Norwegian’s broader move to cut prices and take share from traditional flag carriers that dominate trans-Atlantic flying.
While airlines such as Deutsche Lufthansa AG offer travelers hundreds of destinations via connections in airport hubs, Norwegian is aiming to make nonstop service to small cities that straddle the Atlantic more common, which keeps costs low.
“I think you will see a lot to that effect within five years’ time,” Kjos said. “What will happen to (Lufthansa) when everyone starts to fly direct?”
Norwegian has 100 737 MAX jets from Boeing Co on order and expects to receive five in 2017. These planes are equipped to traverse the Atlantic but are smaller than most jets that currently do so, making them a better size for international flights to cities such as Birmingham in Britain, Kjos said.
Regulators will have to agree to set up customs stations at US regional airports to handle international traffic, although Kjos said he is confident this can be arranged.
Norwegian is not the only airline to market cheap fares across the Atlantic.
Iceland’s Wow Air recently offered one-way fares between Boston and Paris for $99. Lufthansa’s low-cost subsidiary Eurowings is also starting cheap long-haul flights.
Kjos downplayed the competitive threat of Eurowings, saying, “I don’t believe in their being able to operate low cost with a Boeing 767,” in part because the widebody planes save less fuel and have smaller range than planes such as Boeing Dreamliners in Norwegian’s fleet.
Norwegian separately reported Tuesday that it filled 96 percent of long-haul plane seats in September, helping the airline post better-than-expected results.
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Old 21st Jan 2017, 05:59
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If Norwegian start a service to the New York region you can kiss goodbye to United's EWR route.
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Old 21st Jan 2017, 08:26
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If Norwegian start a service to the New York region you can kiss goodbye to United's EWR route.
BHX-EWR is carrying a lot of connecting traffic beyond New York that Norwegian wouldn't be able to take.
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Old 22nd Jan 2017, 07:10
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True but to make money, United need both connecting traffic and point to point. Norwegian would easily take a swathe of the p2p from United albeit growing the size of the market willing to fly BHX-NYC direct. They are VERY aggresive remember, their previous growth plan was predicated on killing off SAS stone dead. They make MOL look Mother Theresa IMHO but so long as the consumer saves a few more bob, no one cares.
United have dropped BRS and more recently BFS and NCL, careful what you wish for.
btw Norwegian's (loss making) business model makes the Virgin Group look like a model of transparency!
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Old 22nd Jan 2017, 08:24
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo View Post
True but to make money, United need both connecting traffic and point to point. Norwegian would easily take a swathe of the p2p from United albeit growing the size of the market willing to fly BHX-NYC direct. They are VERY aggresive remember, their previous growth plan was predicated on killing off SAS stone dead. They make MOL look Mother Theresa IMHO but so long as the consumer saves a few more bob, no one cares.
United have dropped BRS and more recently BFS and NCL, careful what you wish for.
btw Norwegian's (loss making) business model makes the Virgin Group look like a model of transparency!
Absolutely right - chasing reggies and pretty colour schemes might not necessarily result in the best business outcome for BHX.
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Old 22nd Jan 2017, 08:29
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pretty colour schemes
Norwegians is an awful scheme!
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 19:03
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easyJet Belfast (BFS)

Operating into summer 2017 and now bookable
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 20:11
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BFS

Great news to see EZY staying on the route and as a year round airline at BHX - they must have struck a late deal to get them to stay. Looks like 3 x daily from July, no Sat flights until then.
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 06:46
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Originally Posted by GayFriendly View Post
Great news to see EZY staying on the route and as a year round airline at BHX - they must have struck a late deal to get them to stay. Looks like 3 x daily from July, no Sat flights until then.
Yes, but then at no stage did the airline, or either BHX or BFS ever say the services were in any way threatened. This was a story created by rumour, though, of course, there may have been some manouvering behind the scenes.
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 17:43
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Evening All! , I was encouraged tonight to read a headline in a local paper about Jet2 starting New York flights – however reading on it looks like there’s only going to be 2 flights. One on black Friday and another closer to Christmas. Still , I guess its good news!
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Old 25th Jan 2017, 07:24
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Already mentioned in post 4373 dated 7 January 2017.
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Old 25th Jan 2017, 08:46
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Great news if you fancy 8 hours on a holiday configured 757 with no IFE !!!!
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Old 25th Jan 2017, 13:21
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Great news if you fancy 8 hours on a holiday configured 757 with no IFE !!!!
Ever heard of books, magazines etc? I can remember many a crossing over the pond without IFE. Don't use it all that much these days either.
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Old 25th Jan 2017, 13:23
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Originally Posted by Hotel Tango View Post
Ever heard of books, magazines etc? I can remember many a crossing over the pond without IFE. Don't use it all that much these days either.
Yeah no thanks, nowadays it's nearly a must.

I thought 5 and a half hours on an old 737-300 was hard, wouldn't fancy 8!
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Old 25th Jan 2017, 17:51
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Yeah no thanks, nowadays it's nearly a must.
New generation of softies!
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Old 25th Jan 2017, 17:54
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Originally Posted by Hotel Tango View Post
New generation of softies!
Ah generation snowflake is what you're thinking too?

Possibly the worst argument I've ever heard for the downgrading of services. Sure why would we expect standards now when they didn't have them when Old man John was a child?
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Old 25th Jan 2017, 18:28
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I think you're taking my comments a tad too too seriously AerRyan!

Tell you what though, knowing this new generation as I do, if JET2 fares are considerably lower than the competition they WILL sell, IFE or not!
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Old 25th Jan 2017, 21:03
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Originally Posted by Hotel Tango View Post
I think you're taking my comments a tad too too seriously AerRyan!

Tell you what though, knowing this new generation as I do, if JET2 fares are considerably lower than the competition they WILL sell, IFE or not!
Rarely a truer word spoken - and it's proven by the phenomenal success of Ryanair who's business has been built on "pile it high and sell it cheap", certainly not on customer service, or service quality.
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Old 25th Jan 2017, 21:07
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You can do cheaper fares in Europe, there's no taxes and fees and like there is crossing the Atlantic. Much easier to slap an extra €50 on a fare to the US than the UK to improve the service.
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