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Old 24th Aug 2013, 17:44
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At least it would appear the airport's drainage system works! Perhaps Stobarts could get in touch with Southend Borough Council?
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Old 4th Sep 2013, 08:35
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easyJet S14

It looks like four based aircraft, at least until mid-June. There is no BFS but that is being dropped from January as already announced.

AMS increases to 3 x daily (ex Tu & Sa) and GVA runs on through the summer at 5 x weekly. JER is reduced to 2 x weekly, presumably due to the 3 x daily from LGW next year.

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Old 4th Sep 2013, 09:03
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Disappointing, but not surprising given the change of approach at London (Bishop's Stortford) now that MAG are in control....

As we all know, SEN needs other operators soon.
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Looking on the EasyJet website, no new routes have been uploaded at all yet at any London airport as far as I can see. Liverpool to Newquay is still not bookable either so there is no guarantee that it won't run next year. On the whole its probably what was to be expected if no new routes are announced. GVA was rumoured a few months back that it would go year round and so it turns out to be.
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The timetable issued today also runs only until mid-June so there is still plenty of scope for additional destinations/frequencies after that. It would though require either an additional based aircraft or flights originating from other bases.

I wouldn't call it disappointing as the May 2014 timetable shows considerable increases on May this year in terms of the total number of flights operated.

tws123's point regarding NQY and other new EZY routes is quite correct.
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Disappointing, but not surprising given the change of approach at London (Bishop's Stortford) now that MAG are in control....
Stansted appears pretty much exactly the same as now, same flights and frequencies I believe which is better than could be said in previous years. With that in mind, I doubt much will change.

SEN could still be in with a chance after mid-June, though hopefully not another a/c will be moved from STN to SEN at that time!
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I cannot see that any of the UK bases could have expected extra based aircraft in Spring 2014. EZY's absolute priority is surely the covering of those new slots at LGW, nothing to do with MAG and STN It looks like a requirement for 7-8 extra hulls at LGW and a capacity increase in the region of 12-15 percent, growth they will need to accommodate without causing too much damage to their yields.

By the time the midsummer schedules start I would imagine there could be extra aircraft available if new build A320s continue to be delivered through the summer as is happening this year. Equally of course some of the LGW routes and frequencies are seasonal so some of the later deliveries could still be required there. These are just my estimates and welcome comment anyone with a better knowledge of actual plans.
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Old 4th Sep 2013, 11:45
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It's also worth remembering that a lot possibly can/probably will chop and change between now and then.
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With the continuing problems in BFS I doubt many would actually choose that as a destination unless they have business there.
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Old 6th Sep 2013, 07:01
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Saw this posted on twitter, from Monday evening's DUB:

@theseaside100: It's peaceful. There are 8 (eight) passengers on this @SouthendAirport Aer Lingus flight to Dublin. http://t.co/ovz5HWZKLA

Are there frequently such low numbers on particular flights? I know the average is reasonable and I've seen 40+ get off the evening flight but was surprised the load was so light.
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 13:57
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sxflyer - Are you for real??? The day I start believing everything that is posted on "Twitter" is the day I believe that the world is flat. Have a look at one of this chaps colleagues messages on your link - says a lot - no??

Anyway - back to reality. Flew to Amsterdam and back from SEN middle of last week - just a dozen or so empty seats each way. In fact I only got my two bottles of (reduced price!!) white wine about 10 minutes before landing. Excellent travel experience all round from SEN, Easyjet, and the UKBA (quick exit).

Now the cons - the quicker the Terminal completion is completed the better - the hoardings and boarding do not create a good impression. Hurry up Kier!!!!
Also - on arriving at the railway station neither ticket window was open and the ticket machines were playing up. SORT THIS OUT PLEASE!!!

Other than that - SEN is brilliant. Off to Edinburgh mid-week - though unfortunately forced to fly back into that unwelcoming cavern - Stansted. AARRGHH!! Stuck with the X30 back home.
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 15:43
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When the terminal extension is finished will this not make the terminal all width and no depth? Even though the grass that fronts the terminal looks very nice is this not a waste of valuable land?

The terminal will end up with an impressive frontage but a bit of a walk for some passengers will be required. So how wide will the terminal be, I'm thinking around 100m but am I way out?

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Old 8th Sep 2013, 18:12
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Do you mean width (length) or depth (breadth)?

The terminal building will double in length, becoming 90m longer, and the number of check in desks/baggage drop-off points will increase, as will the amount of space for passengers in security. The departure lounge will grow in size and a larger arrivals area will have enhanced baggage reclaim facilities and a larger immigration area. Retail and catering facilities will also be expanded throughout the terminal in order to provide a much wider range of shops and services to passengers.

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Old 8th Sep 2013, 21:20
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So the terminal will be 180m wide That's quite a size, so how deep is the terminal?
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 21:54
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BA8484 from palma est arrival 22,45 is this because LCY is closed or for another reason?
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Just a question how long is the Runway at Southend now?.
Can it take larger jets. And have they put more stands in.
Perhaps an additional runway expansion is needed to attract more operations ie 757 or A330 type stuff.
Could be an idea to have the likes of Flybe in there in there doing some domestic routes currently not served.
Perhaps SEN-LBA. SEN-HUY. SEN-INV/ABZ.
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 22:21
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The extended runway is 1856m long with a TODA of 1799m.

The extended terminal will actually be a shade over 160m long, and just over 10 m wide.

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Originally Posted by Barling Magna:8038192
The extended runway is 1856m long with a TODA of 1799m.

The extended terminal will actually be a shade over 160m long, and just over 10 m wide.
Ah ok thank you. Similar in length to Vagar. Not much chance of A320's then or 757.
Tho I could swear id read that a 747 touched down there
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Old 9th Sep 2013, 04:44
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Southend has a non standard runway width of 37m instead of the more common 45m which can also limit aircraft types. While indeed the runway is 1856m long the published takeoff run is 1739m in both directions. At the western end there is a starter extension of 135m x30.

Questions:

Why can't this starter extension be added to the TORA or has it already?
Is this because the starter extension is only 30m wide?
Why go to all of the expense of building a runway extension and make the first 135m even narrower than the already narrow 37m runway?

Is the terminal really only 10m wide? I find that hard to believe, surely it has to be more than 10 paces wide.

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Old 9th Sep 2013, 05:22
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Onyx - Southend-Leeds takes 4 hours by train so would need a very large corporate with regular daily staff transport requirements for such a route to exist. Humberside has very few domestic routes right now - Southend is not a centre for oil/gas so can't really see SEN-HUY being top of the list.

Flybe from Southend to Scotland is a little more interesting. Easyjet are dropping Belfast and struggling with SEN-EDI - if they give up on the EDI route then there might possibly be room for Flybe to step in instead on a 78 seat instead of a 156 seat aircraft. Glasgow on a Q400 might work as well but Southend-Inverness seems rather ambitious...

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