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I've recently booked a number of flights and the captcha hasn't changed from the more user-friendly one (that replaced the original captcha) which uses easy-to-read words or phrases, some relative to FR. Haven't seen anything about Mastercard.
Out of curiosity just tried it now and same result every time.
Out of curiosity just tried it now and same result every time.

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Unfriendly skies for Ryanair in France these days...
The release of a book: "Ryanair : low-cost mais à quel prix ?" (Ryanair: Low Cost But At What Price?) is making it to the news headlines. Written by Christian Fletcher, "nom de plume" (pen name) for a (supposedly, of course) former Ryanair Captain, it's a very strong-handed attack against Ryanair's policies and procedures. Its obvious purpose is to scare people away from the airline. I'm looking forward to buying it from my nearest bookstore when available.
This is about the only article I could find in English about this book's release: Ryanair accused by pilot of putting passengers in danger in bid to cut costs – The Connexion
Several articles in the French media, including the respected "Le Monde" newspaper.
The release of a book: "Ryanair : low-cost mais à quel prix ?" (Ryanair: Low Cost But At What Price?) is making it to the news headlines. Written by Christian Fletcher, "nom de plume" (pen name) for a (supposedly, of course) former Ryanair Captain, it's a very strong-handed attack against Ryanair's policies and procedures. Its obvious purpose is to scare people away from the airline. I'm looking forward to buying it from my nearest bookstore when available.
This is about the only article I could find in English about this book's release: Ryanair accused by pilot of putting passengers in danger in bid to cut costs – The Connexion
Several articles in the French media, including the respected "Le Monde" newspaper.
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Or maybe just an amateur attempt to sensationalize on a trend that saw 'SAS' heroes write about their experiences? Anyone that flew an airplane knew that it was 99% standard, boring, day to day routine stuff, inter-spaced with 1% adrenalin raising experiences. Can't see it being of any real interest to the general public and even then limited interest to those that do the job.


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Not sure if this is the right thread to be asking in but does anyone know the seat pitch of the extra legroom seats on a ryanair flight? I tried customer services but the first advisor hung up on me and the second was insistent I wanted the price of the seats not the pitch


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Excellent post - why they seem to just love poking a finger into as many eyes as possible has always amazed me
They have absolutely no friends out there - and when, not if, something happens that leaves them in trouble they will reap the results of years of p******* everyone off
They have absolutely no friends out there - and when, not if, something happens that leaves them in trouble they will reap the results of years of p******* everyone off

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It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure, that just ain't so.
Row 1 also has extra legroom. It doesn't make sense to speak of "pitch" because there's no seat row in front, but row 1 ABC has essentially nothing in front for maybe a metre - enough for VERY tall people.
The downside to rows 1, 16 and 17 is that the tray tables are in the armrests, so the seats feel a little narrower. But if you are tall, that's a price worth paying.

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what else drives an airline to charge its employee's €4 for entrance to a swimming pool to carry out the mandatory wet drill's which are a business expense? and thus deductible or €70 for an airside pass which can only be used on duty for FR?

Deductible they may be. But that benefit doesn't come until the end of the year once the beancounters and auditors have done their bit.
In the mean time, the business has to stump up the cold cash to actually pay suppliers for those expenses.
Avoid paying a given expense and you get to use the money elsewhere in the business instead, potentially in areas with a direct hard profit margin.
Although I've never run an aviation business, I also suspect you'll not be short on nice chunky tax deductible items anyway (leases on the shiny aircraft for example).
(Disclaimer that I'm talking in general terms here rather than about any company and will resolutely sit on the fence when it comes to the Ryanair debate, I'm not taking either side.....I don't want letters from their representatives !).
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We were waiting to push at Pisa yesterday when the Ryanair next to us called for engine start just ahead of us. His doors were not only still open, there was still passengers boarding
What a dreadful environment there crews must work in.

What a dreadful environment there crews must work in.

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the Ryanair next to us called for engine start just ahead of us. His doors were not only still open, there was still passengers boarding...

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Its not odd, sadly normal behaviour for many a RYR crew.
Often I have been blocked by a RYR calling for push when his tug was not attached or only just driving up! Selfish and causes the flow on the ground to falter.
Often I have been blocked by a RYR calling for push when his tug was not attached or only just driving up! Selfish and causes the flow on the ground to falter.

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I'm sorry but that's rubbish. 
I have never deliberately called for start unless ready and I don't see it happening on the line. To suggest it's common with Ryanair crews is BS. Yes, it may happen from time to time, but our crews are not in a mad rush.

I have never deliberately called for start unless ready and I don't see it happening on the line. To suggest it's common with Ryanair crews is BS. Yes, it may happen from time to time, but our crews are not in a mad rush.

My all time favourite on this subject;
I am parked alongside one of our favourite airline's aircraft;
He calls for "push and start" with doors open and still boarding.
I am fully ready and call for "push and start."
"Stand by, the aircraft on the next stand is pushing back."
What ATC don't realise is that I have the only available tug on the airfield already connected to my nosewheel!
I let it go for a couple of minutes and then asked ATC how he was going to manage to push when I already had the only tug available connected.
Confusion and a large degree of embarrassment resulted.
I can assure you that FR do not have a monopoly on this subject.
I am parked alongside one of our favourite airline's aircraft;
He calls for "push and start" with doors open and still boarding.
I am fully ready and call for "push and start."
"Stand by, the aircraft on the next stand is pushing back."
What ATC don't realise is that I have the only available tug on the airfield already connected to my nosewheel!
I let it go for a couple of minutes and then asked ATC how he was going to manage to push when I already had the only tug available connected.
Confusion and a large degree of embarrassment resulted.
I can assure you that FR do not have a monopoly on this subject.

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Regarding Pisa, old habits die hard. It's not a push and start. It's a request to basically start the flight plan.
I believe our briefs used to advise us to request start -10 before ready. It's a base so I assume this was all worked out between all the locals but I was led to believe the reason behind it was due to the process behind the scenes which the ground controller had to do to get your release from Milian. This used to cause delays years ago but its a streamlined process now and I believe our briefs don't mention this anymore.
I believe our briefs used to advise us to request start -10 before ready. It's a base so I assume this was all worked out between all the locals but I was led to believe the reason behind it was due to the process behind the scenes which the ground controller had to do to get your release from Milian. This used to cause delays years ago but its a streamlined process now and I believe our briefs don't mention this anymore.
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RYair post regarding fine and impounding a/c
Where has this thread gone. Is it just a little too near the truth so the company have been able to get it removed?
Don't like it when it comes their way, although they give it out enough.
Don't like it when it comes their way, although they give it out enough.
