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Old 9th Jan 2013, 21:15
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Originally Posted by racedo
assumming 50% discount.
Would this discount be possible without Uncle Sam financing it? EU has been mad about the subsidies allegedly paid to Boeing, but the half-price deal would also reduce Europeans' expenditure on aircraft (harming the Airbus industry, though).
Economy is a delicate art sometimes...
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Good customers who pay and have boasted about how they 'screwed them over' before
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Would this discount be possible without Uncle Sam financing it? EU has been mad about the subsidies allegedly paid to Boeing, but the half-price deal would also reduce Europeans' expenditure on aircraft (harming the Airbus industry, though).
Economy is a delicate art sometimes...
Think you will find that going to anybody with a substantial order then a big discount will happen anyway.

Try going to a Ford dealer and offering to buy 200 cars and see what price you can get.

US EXIM Bank will finance, just like they finance other capital purchases.

Most countries provide Export funding or guarantees schemes for their exporters.
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Good customers who pay and have boasted about how they 'screwed them over' before
Ever met a Salesman or Buyer who hasn't boasted about screwing a customer / supplier ?

Only one thing worse for a Salesman about hearing a customer says they screwed them and its a customer saying they buying from the competition.

People shouldn't confuse rhetoric with business.............
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Orangaphobia - referring to a thread from 2001, hardly relevant!
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And people should not confuse good business with rubbing peoples face in it.

I suspect Ryanair may get quite a good deal still, but maybe not quite as good as they could have, and that is how business works.

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Old 10th Jan 2013, 17:47
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People from Jerez seem to be very keen to get new routes - and news leek a bit early. From end March / April new routes waiting to be announced:
XRY to DUB
XRY to EDI
XRI to CRL
XRY to BRE

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And people should not confuse good business with rubbing peoples face in it.

I suspect Ryanair may get quite a good deal still, but maybe not quite as good as they could have, and that is how business works.
Business is business not good or bad.
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Old 10th Jan 2013, 22:27
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Ryanair: "No such thing as bad publicity" ?

On the above basis, sales in Spain (now one of its biggest markets, where if I am not mistaken it is already much much bigger than ailing Iberia-out-of-IAG) will go through the roof shortly as a result of the programme due to be aired on 11th January at 22:20 (local) on national channel LA SEXTA.

The pre-programme publicity from the company website www.lasexta.com is as below:

" Tres aterrizajes de emergencia por falta de combustible ponen a la compañía aérea Ryanair en el punto de mira. El programa viaja a Dublín para hablar con los protagonistas de la mayor crisis de Ryanair en sus 28 años de historia. "Equipo de investigación" entrevista en primicia a la controladora aérea que dirigía las operaciones la noche de los tres aterrizajes emergencia. En sus 15 años de carrera nunca ha vivido una situación tan extrema. Voces de todo el sector aéreo denuncian que la compañía opera “al límite”, también sus empleados.
Por primera vez un piloto en activo de la aerolínea cuenta ante una cámara que la "low cost" les somete a presiones para ahorrar combustible. El programa conducido por Gloria Serra ha tenido acceso a documentos que demuestran estas presiones. Las asociaciones de consumidores están desbordadas por las quejas de los pasajeros de Ryanair. La compañía debe más de un millón de euros en indemnizaciones que no paga.
Mientras, las comunidades autónomas y ayuntamientos llevan años impulsando el desarrollo de la aerolínea con millonarios contratos de publicidad. "Equipo de investigación" entra en las oficinas centrales de la compañía en Irlanda y comprueba que la filosofía del ahorro impera en todo Ryanair. El programa entrevista a Michael O’Leary, el polémico director de la compañía, sobre los últimos incidentes y las denuncias que ponen en tela de juicio la seguridad de la "low cost". "

As Ducksie himself has apparently (from the above) cooperated with the programme makers, no doubt we will get the unvarnished truth about all the above issues so I for one will be watching with barely bated breath.
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Old 10th Jan 2013, 23:29
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Any discussion about RYR is irrelevant because, for each person who walks away swearing never to use them again - there will be two 18 year olds let loose on the world on their own for the first time. They (mostly) have no money and a lot to learn.

Unless RYR starts breaking hulls way above the average - their business is assured. Not for me, but that's irrelevant.
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racedo you should of applied for the new Head of Communications in FR

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Old 11th Jan 2013, 06:07
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He;s workin' on it Jamie....since 2008......
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Does anybody know of any new routes to Mahon/Menorca (MAH). I will be very surprised if East Midlands remained the only UK airport to serve Menorca in the summer. We're getting quite close now with only 2 and a half months until the summer timetables kick in so wondered of anybody knows anything?
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Old 11th Jan 2013, 19:31
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I will be very surprised if East Midlands remained the only UK airport to serve Menorca in the summer.
Monarch (ZB) fly to Menorca from Manchester 5 times per week in summer 13 and Jet2 3 times per week..

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Business is business not good or bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are not being serious surely?
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Old 11th Jan 2013, 23:22
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Business is business not good or bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are not being serious surely?
Define good business ?

Lets face it do you think buying £ 8 tshirts at an Oxford street retailer is bad business, especially when its some 16 year old kid in far east getting paid 20 pence a day for this.

Sounds bad until you think that the rent from the shop gets paid to the company your pension fund is invested in and total employees, 200 in the store, 90% of whom were on the dole and now pay some tax and store would be empty otherwise.

Govt gets VAT to pay for everything and provide tax back for your pension contributions. Your pension fund also invested in the retailer so you get something when you retire. 16 year old kid is first from family to have a job.

So is it good or bad business ?

Or is the new IPAD made in factory in China good business where staff commit suicide ?
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Old 12th Jan 2013, 09:22
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I will be very surprised if East Midlands remained the only UK airport to serve Menorca in the summer.
Monarch (ZB) fly to Menorca from Manchester 5 times per week in summer 13 and Jet2 3 times per week..
With Ryanair!

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Old 12th Jan 2013, 10:34
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UK-MENORCA

Err what about easyJet, British Airways, Thomson etc. etc.
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Old 12th Jan 2013, 12:20
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Since this is a RYANAIR thread I didn't feel I had to specify that it was just RYANAIR which I was refering to.

The only UK airport that RYANAIR currently fly to Minorca from is EAST MIDLANDS.

I was simply asking if RYANAIR (forget EasyJet, Jet2, Monarch etc.) was likely to add Minorca to more UK airports, Stansted being the obvious one, or maybe Bristol, Manchester or Prestwick for example. It really wasn't a difficult question.
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Old 12th Jan 2013, 12:25
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In this case FR yes you did as your statement was 'I will be very surprised if East Midlands remained the only UK airport to serve Menorca in the summer.' which was, and I can understand why, interpreted as a general question not specifically to FR.
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