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Old 29th Sep 2013, 20:50
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It has been reported on the DTV thread that a 100 fine will be imposed for dropping off/picking up passengers outside the termnal at Liverpool Airport.
Have they been teaming up with RYR then???
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 21:23
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Are the terminal area roads private or council owned ?

And who are dishing out the fines ?
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 21:49
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This company is dishing out the fines.

A parking company is paying 25,000 a year to patrol an airport approach road and issue 100 penalty notices to drivers who stop for just a few seconds to drop off passengers.

A leaked document reveals that Vehicle Control Services (VCS) pays the fee in return for 24-hour access to Liverpool John Lennon Airport.


The firm monitors the road in a van fitted with a camera, catching vehicles that break the no-stopping rule.
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 21:50
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This has been in operation for a few years, not in front of the terminal which the public can't access anyway, but on the roads which are owned by the airport, there are clear warning signs and red lines down the sides of the roads.

Passengers should be dropped off in the dedicate drop off zone which is free for the first five minutes so it makes no difference to you.

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Old 30th Sep 2013, 19:32
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Q. Do VCS have the right to enforce tickets in court?
A. Yes, but only with the prior written permission of JLA

But they can only enforce against drivers not the registered owners of vehicles.

If caught, ask them to provide proof that you were the driver. If they can't ignore them.

Just because you are the registered owner doesn't mean you are on the hook.
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Old 30th Sep 2013, 20:53
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I know things are quiet on the Liverpool thread but please, can we move on from parking fines? There are more signs on the approach roads than you can shake a stick at. If you get caught, tough - don't stop where you shouldn't. There are plenty of places within a five minute drive that drivers can lay up and wait without risk of being fined, or without causing traffic chaos on the approach roads or congestion for local residents.
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Old 30th Sep 2013, 22:46
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There are plenty of signs around the airport approach detailing this policy, they clearly show "no stopping at any time" and the fine is only enforced immedietly near the airport - near the roundabout and on roads that the public have no need to access anyway. There are red lines painted at the side of the road.

Can we move on from this discussion because it is not really anything to do with Airports or Routes
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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 09:55
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Carpark height barriers

A bit boring, sorry, but would someone who knows the airport please tell me if any of the longterm carparks have height barriers? I need to park my high van for a week or two.

Thank you very much!
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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 10:14
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Is there any drop-off point that is weather protected ? ie; you don't get wet walking to the terminal when its raining.
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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 10:53
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Its much the same at most airports, drop-off/pick-up, raining you get wet.
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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 13:17
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Drop off is maybe 100 paces from the terminal.
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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 16:57
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A bit boring, sorry, but would someone who knows the airport please tell me if any of the longterm carparks have height barriers? I need to park my high van for a week or two.

Thank you very much!
Depending on the height you should be fine in the iPark and Long Stay but not Multi Storey.
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Old 3rd Oct 2013, 22:49
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EZY7117LPL,

Thank you, most useful and very kind of you.
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 13:53
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It seems LPL-CPH has been cut from 28th March.

It seems all destinations from CPH are bookable for the summer season, and from April 2014, LPL is removed from the list of available destinations on this page:

All destinations- Cheap flights from Copenhagen - Norwegian.com
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Old 4th Nov 2013, 18:06
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Wizz Air starting to release Summer 2014 flights from all airports now and still no sign of Liverpool to Katowice coming back for next summer.

All other Katowice routes have been uploaded as well as the Liverpool to Gdansk and Warsaw flights.

Norwegian still has nothing to Copenhagen after 28th March.

Assuming neither situation changes and there's no new routes from anyone other than Ryanair and EasyJet... That could mean the only flights out of Liverpool which are not Ryanair or EasyJet would be the 2 Wizz Air routes and the Flybe service to the Isle of Man!!

Despite the rumours over the last several months, no growth seems to be returning! It's sadly looking quite bleak for Liverpool.
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Old 4th Nov 2013, 20:58
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Despite the rumours over the last several months, no growth seems to be returning! It's sadly looking quite bleak for Liverpool.
Just because nothing is public doesn't mean it won't happen.
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Old 4th Nov 2013, 21:52
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Yes maybe in future, but so far it looks like traffic might be slightly down again in 2014 where most airports look to be growing quite strongly.

Plus there have been rumours on and off about a major announcement for months and the only fairly recent thing that turned out to be true was 2 flights a week with Norwegian, who now appears to be leaving in March, although it is still early(ish) days.

I have my preferred airports as I'm sure most people here do and I must admit Liverpool isn't one of them. Unlike some people on this forum though I don't want to see my less preferred airports lose traffic.

It's very sad as people's jobs depend on the airport and any reduction at any airport can put jobs at risk, and not just those directly employed either. Unfortunately I just don't really see any significant increases at Liverpool myself. Certainly not for next year.
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Old 5th Nov 2013, 08:53
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Nobody's going to be losing jobs over 3 routes a week. It's a shame about Norwegian because with the right routes they could have made the operation out of Liverpool a success.

Listening to BBC Radio merseyside the other day they had a 2 hour appearance from a couple of board members and they spoke not for the first time of a hub route being there number 1 priority.

But who? KLM would be brilliant but they've already had a go and despite good loads they couldn't make it work. Can't see BA, Air France or Lufthansa being interested. They sounded like they have something up there sleeves but what?

LPL is massively under served with some basic destinations, somebody like Jet2 coming in could clean up. Far more room for routes to Greece, Turkey, Cyprus, Croatia, Italy, Germany amongst others. Liverpool is massively under served at the moment for a regional airport with its catchment area.

2007 pax numbers of 5.5m show that the pax are out there. I hope for the airports sake they manage to get something new for next year, because the monopoly EZY & RYR have on the place is crazy, especially when neither are expanding at LPL.
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Old 5th Nov 2013, 09:57
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Liverpool was only relevant when Manchester spurned the low cost market believing the future was legacy.

Eventually, and to be fair with a degree of hindsight Manchester capitulated to the low cost market and RYR and EZY opened up over there.

Whilst they retain a degree of interest they are in a win - win situation, they really want services Ex Manchester and one base, two bases 40minutes apart is a nonsense BUT crucially the additional cost of running two bases is offset presumably by savings elsewhere. By retaining a Liverpool base they can play one off against the other in terms of cost!

The passengers they serve are driven by price so Manchester and Liverpool are in effect both "local", regardless of where the pax originate, geography does not really matter so they attract same clientele.

In terms of services to a hub, why would anybody start services ex Liverpool when you can be in Manchester in less than an hour and have multiple choices ?
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Old 5th Nov 2013, 10:38
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Nobody's going to be losing jobs over 3 routes a week.
No but when passenger numbers in 2012 dropped by 15% compared to 2011, with 2013 expected to have a tiny decline and with 2014 looking perhaps the same way, jobs will have been lost and with no return of growth, those jobs won't be coming back. Especially with Manchester growing quite significantly at the moment.
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