Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Misc. Forums > Airlines, Airports & Routes
Reload this Page >

New Swissair Goes AirBorNe

Wikiposts
Search
Airlines, Airports & Routes Topics about airports, routes and airline business.

New Swissair Goes AirBorNe

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 1st Apr 2002, 20:58
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Rotterdam
Posts: 66
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Smile New Swissair Goes AirBorNe

New Swiss airline takes to the skies

air yesterday morning, combining the services of the defunct carrier Swissair and regional airline Crossair.

The first Swiss flight was a 30-minute hop from Basel to Zurich -- the two headquarters of the new airline. The early morning flight took off half an hour late because of the media interest, said spokesman Patrick Jeandrain.

The airline's new boss, André Dose, was aboard the nearly full flight, Mr. Jeandrain said.

Mr. Dose, formerly head of Crossair, told Swiss radio that he was "optimistic" about the airline's future. He said reservations for flights so far had been better than expected.



More at AV Industry News
avt100 is offline  
Old 2nd Apr 2002, 07:48
  #2 (permalink)  

ex-Tanker
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Luton Beds UK
Posts: 907
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
That's a useful flight, BSL to ZRH - Flight record around 13 minutes - used to be faster to BSL in the days when you could land visual on RW34. Taxi from Basel station to the airport around 20 minutes, checkin and boarding 35 minutes, checkout and customs in ZRH 20 minutes, taxi to Zurich station 25 minutes.


Depending on traffic and delays, compare train from Basel to Zurich and guess who wins?
Few Cloudy is offline  
Old 12th Apr 2002, 15:44
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: by the river
Posts: 431
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
FlugZug

That is why the old schedules of 9 to 11 positioning flights a day have gone 3-4 at the most and NEVER when you need them.

On the other hand there is a absolutely grat SBB - FlugZug that runs just about every hour - just like clockwork - even if the connecting flights are late and there is snow, fog, ice, whatever.

Planes are not for puddle jumping - up to 300Km its usually as quick by fast train city center to city center.
gofer is offline  
Old 12th Apr 2002, 23:17
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: India
Posts: 346
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
gofer: still no domestic terminal at ZRH?
Alpha Leader is offline  
Old 13th Apr 2002, 06:50
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: by the river
Posts: 431
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Wink Alpha Leader

That's the downstairs part of the Terminals A&B - silly!

What is great is the new "Aircraft Auction Hall" that the Kanton has financed between the 3 main runways.

It would seem that they already have an overflow of things to auction off - looking at the way things are parked around the building.
gofer is offline  
Old 13th Apr 2002, 09:01
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: India
Posts: 346
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
gofer: I meant as in "no immigration - no customs", ie. the internationally accepted terminology of a domestic terminal
Alpha Leader is offline  
Old 13th Apr 2002, 14:02
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: europe
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Have just heard that the flight attendants have just rejected their new Collective Working Agreement!!!

Not good for the new start I presume...
blue belly is offline  
Old 13th Apr 2002, 15:37
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: by the river
Posts: 431
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Cool A L

So did I -

There is no immigration and no customs when flying on the the SBB's FlugZug from BSL to ZRH, and in Kloten the train arrives "downstairs" in its own terminal in the celler.

SBB also runs services to other Swiss Airports GVA Cointrin for one - and you can also go to BRN and LUG from ZRH. :o

In fact the FlugZug must be the only "Flight" that has check-in on board and - at least so far - NO searches and NO baggage x-ray - and you do your own baggage handling - Sowthwest, Go, Ryan, Easy don't copy them too close now.

OK jokes over - SBB's FlugZug is a train (2 man crew only - a jockey front left and a senior steward F/A and check-in all in 1) and it can be stratched to be a 600+ seater immediately - so fleet management and efficiency are high - think of that Airbus & Boeing.
gofer is offline  
Old 13th Apr 2002, 17:00
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: India
Posts: 346
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
gofer: point taken: no immigration and customs cr@p on the train - but where are the domestic terminals in Kloten, Cointrin and Basel/Mulhouse? Has there really been no progress over the last 20 years?
Alpha Leader is offline  
Old 13th Apr 2002, 17:25
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: The bottom of reality
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Cool

Alpha Leader:

With the relatively little amount of domestic airline movement within Switzerland, it's probably just not worth having an own terminal...

In addition, most of the domestic pax inbound to ZRH are just connecting to an international flight anyway!


Cheers, ABD
Air Bus Driver is offline  
Old 14th Apr 2002, 03:01
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: India
Posts: 346
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks, ABD. I'm probably being mislead by the LX route map which shows service to six domestic destinations.

Cheers
Alpha Leader is offline  
Old 14th Apr 2002, 03:57
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: by the river
Posts: 431
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thumbs up Last 20 years

ABD

Thanks so much better put.

AL

Change in the last 20 years - Chalk & Cheese.
High percentages of countryside are gone - they've almost finished the Highway network satrted in 1964 - and of course its way too small.
Around 7 Mio. people, over 3 Mio vehicules on the road and 50% more in the lots waiting for buyers - with an average time to resell near 60 days.
Handy (mobile phone) penetration over 60% of complete population - all kids to Granny's have one.
Private PC-population around 2 Mio with around 2 Mio families (so the next generation will be imported - already is really). Etc., etc.

If you want to look around - try some of these for starters, or e-mail me I'm only just around the corner at the moment in the SAR.

Country Portal
Town Guides :o
Basel
Bern :o
another Bern
Geneva
Zurich - always forget these guys as it a split portal for town & insurance - click top-right
a newspaper

Last edited by gofer; 14th Apr 2002 at 04:22.
gofer is offline  
Old 14th Apr 2002, 06:11
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: India
Posts: 346
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks, gofer. Yep, really changed a lot since I left.
Alpha Leader is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.