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Long story: the bid, from the other party, was for both Regional and baby and was rejected.
They wanted, apparently, individual bids and the preferred bidder for Regional was Granite: who was in the frame for baby has been discussed here.
Then they changed their minds: then changed then again, and again.
Hence the other party is no longer in the chase: if it all falls apart they may examine picking up the remains, but unlikely to consider any action without a substantial sweetener and the liabilities being written off.
If you want an opinion, the probability of baby surviving is low.
They wanted, apparently, individual bids and the preferred bidder for Regional was Granite: who was in the frame for baby has been discussed here.
Then they changed their minds: then changed then again, and again.
Hence the other party is no longer in the chase: if it all falls apart they may examine picking up the remains, but unlikely to consider any action without a substantial sweetener and the liabilities being written off.
If you want an opinion, the probability of baby surviving is low.
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Errrr. I don't think you're talking about the same people.
Unless you have solid gen on this, then I'd be retracting that if I was you. There are hundreds of people in baby who might be affected by this and if you are simply parroting a load of old tosh with no basis of fact, then you are putting a lot of people through anguish for no reason.
I think I know who you are talking about and they aren't the party interested in baby now.
The baby deal is for baby only, not Regional too.
Unless you have solid gen on this, then I'd be retracting that if I was you. There are hundreds of people in baby who might be affected by this and if you are simply parroting a load of old tosh with no basis of fact, then you are putting a lot of people through anguish for no reason.
I think I know who you are talking about and they aren't the party interested in baby now.
The baby deal is for baby only, not Regional too.
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What we know
Regional - 1 Bidder, assumed to be Granite, unable to raise the money
Baby - 2 Bidders: One is a UK Company, the name has been mentioned in the press, the other is an EU Airline Group.
Which of these have dropped out?
Baby - 2 Bidders: One is a UK Company, the name has been mentioned in the press, the other is an EU Airline Group.
Which of these have dropped out?
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Regional - 1 Bidder, assumed to be Granite, unable to raise the money
The person who told me is high enough up the tree to know.
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Inkjet, what a lot of tosh in your last message, I have read post after post of this super charged positivity, which is admiral, but I sense its all wishful thinking on your part.
I'm am sad to say that I feel bmibaby has a bleak future despite them being a competitor to the organisation that I work for.
Good luck to all staff.
EI-BUD.
I'm am sad to say that I feel bmibaby has a bleak future despite them being a competitor to the organisation that I work for.
Good luck to all staff.
EI-BUD.
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If the well placed management source is who I think it is I'd take that with a huge pinch of salt.
I'm not saying it won't happen. I just think there's a lot of pro granite management spin at the moment and what facts it's based on is sketchy.
If the well placed management source is who I think it is I'd take that with a huge pinch of salt.
I'm not saying it won't happen. I just think there's a lot of pro granite management spin at the moment and what facts it's based on is sketchy.
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SAS, save the indignance and read the post.
It doesn't say the bid is for anything but the individual brands.
Your energies would be better placed questioning DLH management and baby management: just ask them WTF is going on?
The deal for bmi has been cleared, so far, and the reported target date for ink on the proverbial is 20 April: that's 13 working days, including today.
With the track record of DLH so far in concluding the sale you better hope they can pull a white rabbit out of the hat.
It doesn't say the bid is for anything but the individual brands.
Your energies would be better placed questioning DLH management and baby management: just ask them WTF is going on?
The deal for bmi has been cleared, so far, and the reported target date for ink on the proverbial is 20 April: that's 13 working days, including today.
With the track record of DLH so far in concluding the sale you better hope they can pull a white rabbit out of the hat.
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Uh Huh and if you understood what was going on, then what's happening is that Baby and Regional are simply not going to be sold by DLH, but by IAG. Not much has changed really apart from that.
Granite (if they do actually have the money and meet the pre-conditions this time) are still the most likely to buy Regional.
I know exactly who you are talking about in relation to the combined deal, but I also know that they pulled out a long time ago.
I think you've added 2+2 and come up with 8.
I am very suspicious of anyone who says that they know exactly what's going on, simply because nobody really has the entire picture available to them.
I'm hopeful that baby is going to be sold, but until the deal is signed, then anything can go wrong and it can fall apart right up until the last minute.
Granite (if they do actually have the money and meet the pre-conditions this time) are still the most likely to buy Regional.
I know exactly who you are talking about in relation to the combined deal, but I also know that they pulled out a long time ago.
I think you've added 2+2 and come up with 8.
I am very suspicious of anyone who says that they know exactly what's going on, simply because nobody really has the entire picture available to them.
I'm hopeful that baby is going to be sold, but until the deal is signed, then anything can go wrong and it can fall apart right up until the last minute.
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EI BUD
The facts are that the sales procces is continuing and whislt this may or may not be completed before the 20th under DLH or it may continue under IAG, of course it can't go on indefinitely and it may fail to be sold, but other than the timescale nothing has changed, so let's give it until the 20th, clearly there is a willing seller and there are a number of willing buyers, we want the buyer to be the one that keeps the most jobs, not just pilots but baby staff and of course management.
I have no issue with you felling that I am being positive, even optimistic, but through my eyes I feel I'm also being realistic, let's just give the teams on both side space to seal this deal, if it falls apart, I will readily say I called it wrong.
Have a good Easter despite the snow!
I have no issue with you felling that I am being positive, even optimistic, but through my eyes I feel I'm also being realistic, let's just give the teams on both side space to seal this deal, if it falls apart, I will readily say I called it wrong.
Have a good Easter despite the snow!
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My wife and friend were going from EMA to Cologne in May, the flight has been cancelled.
I and 3 friends were going from EMA to Cologne in October, the flight has been cancelled.
Is this the end?
By the way all you clever folk who have joked about "VirginBaby", I was the first poster to use VirginBaby in February. It does have a nice ring to it, come on Sir Beardie, give it a go!
I and 3 friends were going from EMA to Cologne in October, the flight has been cancelled.
Is this the end?
By the way all you clever folk who have joked about "VirginBaby", I was the first poster to use VirginBaby in February. It does have a nice ring to it, come on Sir Beardie, give it a go!
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Yes I'm afraid it is the end, the end of CGN (Cologne) that is.
CGN has been a poor preforming route for most of the time its been on sale and was a route we operated at the request of LH who which ever way you looked at it covered the costs, so it stops 3 of May, sorry about that.
We can use that aircraft slot for something more profitable.
There (probably) has never been a Virgin-baby and there won't be with us either.
CGN has been a poor preforming route for most of the time its been on sale and was a route we operated at the request of LH who which ever way you looked at it covered the costs, so it stops 3 of May, sorry about that.
We can use that aircraft slot for something more profitable.
There (probably) has never been a Virgin-baby and there won't be with us either.
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In the news section of their website, they have apologised for people receiving multiple e-mails from them. They claim 2011 bookings were uploaded in error. If you were informed of the cancellations by e-mail, perhaps it was all part of this glitch.
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There has been a virgin baby, his name was Jesus. So I suppose the new airline could be named "JesusAir" 
I apologise for the bad taste of my post, before I get some stick.
I apologise for the bad taste of my post, before I get some stick.
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Not bad taste, but your right good time to stop digging a hole is when your in one, hope you get your German travel sorted without to much inconvienece. Cancelling is not something we do lightly these days, trust me, but there comes a point where there's no point an 50 or so on a 737 doesn't pay for the gas.
New name will be interesting!
New name will be interesting!