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Old 30th Sep 2016, 11:42
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Well this mess is certainly not the fault of Twitter and Facebook.

I don't recall any social medial speculation prior to this weekend. Therefore whatever went down on Sunday night was nothing to do with social media.
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Old 30th Sep 2016, 11:43
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Any monarch workers on here can confirm any commucation from managers that there job is safe and not to worry?
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Old 30th Sep 2016, 11:44
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To be honest I lost all hope in them a long time ago.

Recognising there's a problem - GOOD
Getting rid of the A330s to simply the fleet - GOOD
Reinvesting as a proper low cost airline - GOOD
Opening Leeds - BRAVE
Announcing they're going to replace the entire fleet with 737s - WTF?

For too long the airline has just plodded along the once the family decided enough was enough they were up the creek without a paddle. They try turn things around, and then some bright spark comes up with the idea of wasting billions on a new type, a type that does 99% of the same missions that the current fleet does.

I have zero faith in the management. It's a very sad situation. I have flown with them many times and hope to do so again.
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Old 30th Sep 2016, 11:51
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Easyjet went from Boeing to Airbus so I wouldn't say stupid.
However Easyjet probs had a lot more money in the bank and was a much bigger offer than monarchs 30 aircraft
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Old 30th Sep 2016, 11:57
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That's not true my friend. We get regular updates so fully expect to hear before it goes viral on social media.

The 737 max order was under the previous owners I believe. Not that keen on it to be honest. Yes the previous owners put money in but actually took more out! Anyway that's history.

Fingers crossed.

Right off to southern Spain!
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Old 30th Sep 2016, 12:05
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It's always someone elses fault isn't it.

The ATOL deadline has only been known about for 12 months!
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Old 30th Sep 2016, 12:11
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The social media speculation over the last fee days surrounding the future of Monarch is nothing short of deplorable. Apart from being damaging to the airline and it's potential passengers spare a thought for the feelings of the Company's employees. Sadly the behaviour of these hovering vultures is all too familiar in the airline industry.
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Old 30th Sep 2016, 12:15
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Easyjet switched to AB during a period of growth and not when it was on the brink of a massive restructure. EJ was a LCC before the AB order and after continued to be the same LCC afterwards. It is not the same thing.
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Old 30th Sep 2016, 12:16
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The company could easily bring an end to the speculation by releasing further information and press releases, or better still by paying up on ATOL. The CEO could even make a statement.

I'd say the company's attitude to its customers & employees is nothing short of deplorable.
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Old 30th Sep 2016, 12:22
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Agree that's the way the company should work but will it with so much media attention- we shall see, definite fingers crossed!!
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Old 30th Sep 2016, 12:22
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You are clearly not keen on Monarch. You are entitled to your opinion. However please get your facts in order before hitting send. The decision is now with the CAA and we are all waiting for news. FACT!
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Old 30th Sep 2016, 12:22
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It's awful. I think it's deliberate mismanagement. I only hope that someone buys them and absorbs them. Yes it would be sad to see the brand go, but I can't help but worry about the employees. There's a lot of talent at MON who deserve a lot better.

Although the planes still have Monarch written on the side - the actually company today is not the same as what it was and the people I know that are there are somewhat less pro Monarch than they were five years ago.

I'm certain that we will hear soon. I don't see anyone in the CAA missing out on an early Friday afternoon flyer. Yes the deadline is midnight - but I don't for one minute think we will have to wait until then.
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Old 30th Sep 2016, 12:25
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The airline certainly seems not to have any direct control over its future, otherwise there would have been a robust statement from the management hierarchy.

I would suggest that Monarch finds itself in the this predicament not due to social media rumours. I am hopeful that there will be an announcement confirming that it is business as usual today, the ATOL issue has been resolved and we can look forward to flying with Monarch for many years to come.
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Old 30th Sep 2016, 12:38
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The decision is now with the CAA and we are all waiting for news. FACT!
Really? I'd suggest its a negotiation that taking place between the CAA and Monarch, and if Monarch coughed up now (or days or weeks ago), this speculation would end.

No other airline seems to be having these problems at the moment, so rather than blame the CAA and social media, could it not be Monarch's fault...
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Old 30th Sep 2016, 12:53
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FANS - You have no idea and obviously anti monarch in a big way!
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Old 30th Sep 2016, 12:56
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trebor - only too happy to be corrected. If Monarch paid up, would its ATOL be renewed?
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Old 30th Sep 2016, 13:12
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ATOL

Unless things have changed recently, high value payments must be made before the 4 pm cut off. Friday end of month carries particularly high volumes for house purchase etc. Renewal of ATOL should not be left to the last second and would have been known about since the last renewal.
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Old 30th Sep 2016, 13:23
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So when will we know? I don't know a great deal about ATOL. Could it be that ATOL has already been renewed? Is this sort of thing announced when it is paid? I'm just thinking that it may all be paid up.
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Old 30th Sep 2016, 13:29
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HM .... it was around midnight last time and the news did not really appear until the following day > CAA grants Monarch ATOL extension
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Old 30th Sep 2016, 13:29
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The CAA could always grant an extension if so minded. If its a matter of waiting for bond money / guarantees and there is a mechanism for this to happen, the CAA may choose to wait rather than do anything too precipitous.
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